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Aug 27 2024 05:58am
Russian accounts reporting that Novohrodivka is fully taken

https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1828386784348164484
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Quote (zorzin @ 27 Aug 2024 02:54)
Ya probably. Iirc, putin was trying for a "no attacking energy infrastructure" type deal but scrapped it after the kursk incursion.
So now that alot of Ukraines AA is near kursk, the Russians are just sending it by going for debilitating strikes.


Rumour is - transmission network was targeted to disable output from three remaining operational nuclear power plants ahead of winter season.

Thermal generation was allegedly fully destroyed few months ago, so no heat/electricity from coal power stations.

Two main hydros (Kiev and Dnieper) are disabled. Kakhovka dam collapsed.

This post was edited by Malopox on Aug 27 2024 08:14am
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Aug 27 2024 09:11am
Putin overreacted. Repairing civil infrastructure takes a long time and is very expensive. However, it makes sense for them to strike where there is no AA capability left because of the Kursk front, I mean Selensky went for the strikes on civilians on Belgorod and Kursk regions. Sadly another escalation step towards a total war.
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Quote (babun1024 @ 27 Aug 2024 18:11)
Putin overreacted. Repairing civil infrastructure takes a long time and is very expensive. However, it makes sense for them to strike where there is no AA capability left because of the Kursk front, I mean Selensky went for the strikes on civilians on Belgorod and Kursk regions. Sadly another escalation step towards a total war.


It depends. Repairing a "hydro" (using Malopox terms) is expensive, repairing some "distribution nodes (using Arestovich terms, what a comparison) is not. As long as Ukrainian nuclear plants are on and kicking, Ukraine is somewhat fine. Meanwhile Belarus has put "B" (or Cyrillic
"W" as Wagner (?), there are several thousands of Wagnerites doing training job in the middle of potato fields of the former Soviet Republic) sign to their MRAP's and tanks at the border.

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Aug 27 2024 03:17pm
Most of Hrodivka (east of river) has been abandoned. Again this is a pro-Russian account, but generally what he says checks out within like a day.

https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1828532458968535131

That area of the front seems to be in total collapse. Neither Hrodivka/Novohrodivka are small insignificant villages. They are basically all that stood between Russian advance and Pokrovsk/Myrnohrad. This also threatens the adjacent southern pocket that's left and likely to get engulfed.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 27 2024 05:17pm)
Most of Hrodivka (east of river) has been abandoned. Again this is a pro-Russian account, but generally what he says checks out within like a day.

https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1828532458968535131

That area of the front seems to be in total collapse. Neither Hrodivka/Novohrodivka are small insignificant villages. They are basically all that stood between Russian advance and Pokrovsk/Myrnohrad. This also threatens the adjacent southern pocket that's left and likely to get engulfed.


Retreating from Hrodivka makes sense, the Russians are moving up quickly to cut the road connecting it to Myrnohrad and anyone stuck in the city is going to end up cut-off. The fact that the Russians are on the outskirts of Selydove is crazy, though. Another ~10km to the south and Ukraine is going to have to abandon the entire area between Krasnohorivka and Karlivka.

A day or two ago Ukrainian commanders were blaming the quality and motivation of new recruits. But it's no different than the situation in Kursk, you can't expect green conscripts with minimal training to hold up against multi-year veterans. The veterans on both sides are easily the most experienced in the world right now.
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Aug 27 2024 04:54pm
Zelensky claimed that russian cruise missiles were countered by.... F16s

So it was Mach 6-7 Iskanders being intercepted by mach 0.7 (not high altitude) F16s, which somehow shot them down with either 20mm cannons (lol) or sidewinders (mach 2.5)
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Aug 27 2024 06:57pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 27 2024 07:58am)
Russian accounts reporting that Novohrodivka is fully taken

https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1828386784348164484


Textbook example of a rout.
Quote (Malopox @ Aug 27 2024 10:10am)
Rumour is - transmission network was targeted to disable output from three remaining operational nuclear power plants ahead of winter season.

Thermal generation was allegedly fully destroyed few months ago, so no heat/electricity from coal power stations.

Two main hydros (Kiev and Dnieper) are disabled. Kakhovka dam collapsed.


Interesting. It would seem to me that attacking these targets serves multiple purposes. Ima thinking that the Russians are gona try the ol' snippy-snap (pincer) on the kursk/sumy border....in the winter.

I also noticed that the Russians spammed shaheds/x-101's initially ,thus depleting ukranian AA, and then sent iskander/kinzhal/kh-22's. This is a tactic that I think the Russians are gona start using more frequently.
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Aug 27 2024 07:10pm
Quote (zorzin @ 28 Aug 2024 02:57)
Textbook example of a rout.

Interesting. It would seem to me that attacking these targets serves multiple purposes. Ima thinking that the Russians are gona try the ol' snippy-snap (pincer) on the kursk/sumy border....in the winter.

I also noticed that the Russians spammed shaheds/x-101's initially ,thus depleting ukranian AA, and then sent iskander/kinzhal/kh-22's. This is a tactic that I think the Russians are gona start using more frequently.


Isn't this also the tactic that Hezbollah had planned two days ago? Spam cheap shit to exhaust the Iron Dome, then launch the good stuff. It's just that Israel caught wind of it and had the airstrike capabilities to nip the attack in the bud. Ukraine obviously can't do the same, particularly since Russia has infinitely more territory and angles from which to launch their missiles and drones.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 27 2024 09:10pm)
Isn't this also the tactic that Hezbollah had planned two days ago? Spam cheap shit to exhaust the Iron Dome, then launch the good stuff. It's just that Israel caught wind of it and had the airstrike capabilities to nip the attack in the bud. Ukraine obviously can't do the same, particularly since Russia has infinitely more territory and angles from which to launch their missiles and drones.


Yes. It's also what the Iranians did way when they launched that volley against Israel. Spamming cheap stuff and then a lil while later, shooting all your expensive stuff seems to penetrate even the most advanced AA. This information is only possible because the Iranians are relaying what works in the ME to the Russians.
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