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Aug 11 2024 01:34pm
Enerhodar. We have recorded from Nikopol that the Russian occupiers have started a fire on the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Currently, radiation levels are within norm. However, as long as the Russian terrorists maintain control over the nuclear plant, the situation is not and cannot be normal.

Since the first day of its seizure, Russia has been using the Zaporizhzhia NPP only to blackmail Ukraine, all of Europe, and the world.

We are waiting for the world to react, waiting for the IAEA to react. Russia must be held accountable for this. Only Ukrainian control over the Zaporizhzhia NPP can guarantee a return to normalcy and complete safety.
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1822710266674684154
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Quote (zorzin @ Aug 11 2024 09:34pm)
Enerhodar. We have recorded from Nikopol that the Russian occupiers have started a fire on the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Currently, radiation levels are within norm. However, as long as the Russian terrorists maintain control over the nuclear plant, the situation is not and cannot be normal.

Since the first day of its seizure, Russia has been using the Zaporizhzhia NPP only to blackmail Ukraine, all of Europe, and the world.

We are waiting for the world to react, waiting for the IAEA to react. Russia must be held accountable for this. Only Ukrainian control over the Zaporizhzhia NPP can guarantee a return to normalcy and complete safety.
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1822710266674684154


Again? :lol:
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Aug 11 2024 02:08pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 11 2024 03:54pm)
Again? :lol:


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I mean, they were the ones bombarding Saporodjia NPP nonstop to involve NATO into the matter. As if Russia is interested in a nuclear fallout around the corner. Grossi was allowed to inspect everything, there was nothing wrong. I think they are preparing the PR for the capture of Kursk NPP, so they wouldn't look like bad guys. Russia isn't going to yield any NPPs.

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Quote (babun1024 @ 11 Aug 2024 22:11)
I mean, they were the ones bombarding Saporodjia NPP nonstop to involve NATO into the matter. As if Russia is interested in a nuclear fallout around the corner. Grossi was allowed to inspect everything, there was nothing wrong. I think they are preparing the PR for the capture of Kursk NPP, so they wouldn't look like bad guys. Russia isn't going to yield any NPPs.

Ukraine is the party which has BY FAR the most to lose from a nuclear disaster at Enerhodar, so this claim that they were relentlessly shelling that NPP seems highly suspect if you ask me.



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We are waiting for the world to react, waiting for the IAEA to react. Russia must be held accountable for this. Only Ukrainian control over the Zaporizhzhia NPP can guarantee a return to normalcy and complete safety.

Ah yes, as everyone knows, Ukrainian handling of NPPs guarantees their complete safety, a NPP would never blow up under Ukrainian control. :unsure: :lol:
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Russia is not sending t-14 armatas to the front for the same reason Ukraine is getting out-dated tanks. Drone warfare has turned them into obsolete boomer-weapons.
Russias black sea fleet also got destroyed due to USV's and long range missles (the same thing is happening to uncle sam in the Red sea) Russias SSBNs are the most important assest of the Russian navy and they are just fine.

So I can agree with you that Russia was woefully underprepaired for drone warfare and ukranine has parity in terms of drone quality/drone spam but Russia (as well as ukraine) HAS adapted to this new style of combat. What's happening in this war is literally changing how maneuver warfare is conducted and both Ukraine and Russia are adapting at a break-neck pace. You can look at recent developments in drones/AI/datalinks/ElectronicWarfare for both parties. Tanks and large blue Navy's are obsolete; drones and IFVs are the future.

Also, Ukraine might not March to Moscow but what everyone is wondering is wether or not uncle sam will give Ukraine the green light to use ATACMS on Russian airfields:
https://i.postimg.cc/W3VRgXrD/1723282767708277.png


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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Aug 2024 09:57)
Ukraine is the party which has BY FAR the most to lose from a nuclear disaster at Enerhodar, so this claim that they were relentlessly shelling that NPP seems highly suspect if you ask me.




Ah yes, as everyone knows, Ukrainian handling of NPPs guarantees their complete safety, a NPP would never blow up under Ukrainian control. :unsure: :lol:


Shelling can only distract the NPP stuff, you need to nuke it for Tchernobyl effect or sabotage it's work from within. So you shell it to get rid of those who captured it, no other way.
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Shelling can only distract the NPP stuff, you need to nuke it for Tchernobyl effect or sabotage it's work from within. So you shell it to get rid of those who captured it, no other way.


I'm pretty sure that damage to the NPPs cooling system caused by shelling or fires can trigger a nuclear meltdown if the plant is still running, or the leakage of nuclear material even if its not operating.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 12 2024 10:47am)
I'm pretty sure that damage to the NPPs cooling system caused by shelling or fires can trigger a nuclear meltdown if the plant is still running, or the leakage of nuclear material even if its not operating.


As far as I know they already shut down all reactors but the plant still needs cooling. Also the spent fuel rods still need cooling.
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