delusional cope

… but had limited effect thus far as they were able to adapt.



Official western count is about 650k have left permanently over two years, which for a country of 140m+ is not that big of a problem. Net migration is still positive as workforce is being replaced with migrants. Many of those that have left in 2022-2023 are coming back as they are facing xenophobia, racism and that life in the west is not as good as kushy as they were lied to and you have feel contempt with all the quiestionable foreign politics western countries are conducting elsewhere.

Now compare that number with 15M? that left Ukraine (which had 40M prewar) most probably never to return.



Russia has conscription system - everyone has to serve. You meant to avoid mobilization? Majority of those who have decided to leave were not eligible to be mobilized anyway.


It’s definitely less powerful than the USSR, but it still yields significant influence in economical and political affairs worldwide and a power not to be trifled with, especially in its own freaking backyard. What’s your point? That interests of Russia should be ignored?

Tranquility prosperity.



Limited effect? Russia cannot produce any modern tanks due to the lack of supply. They tanks they do send are inefficient.



Migrants? Who is travelling to Russia in order to work? Ukraine did have lots of people leave, leaving the ones that remain fighting for their home Country but with all the tech delivered by the West.

Just goes to show how pissed off everybody is at Russia. Those who want nothing to do with the war will suffer abuse.



Not eligible to be mobilized? How do you know that? All I hear is that people left the Country, I didn't hear anything about whatever disability they had to be eligible to be mobilized. I'd like to see where you got this newfound information from.



Russia had Brute Force as its power. Lots of Tanks, Ships and Aircraft. Yet Russia never adapted to this day and age. On Paper Russia should have dominated from the Black Sea and took over the Southern Part of Ukraine and stretch their forces thin. Yet that's not what actually happened. Ukraine didn't have a sizeable navy but they were able to use unmanned drones to sink Russian battle ships and delivery a mighty blow to their naval power. The Russian navy is now deemed inefficient as they can't leave the Black Sea but if they venture too far out then the ships will be hit with drones. Russia cannot afford to build more ships in its current state.

Russia did not adapt to how war is fought in this day and age. We now have to account for unmanned drones that can destroy Tanks and Ships. Which is exactly what Ukraine are doing.

Ukraine have been told not to go on the offensive. They are only allowed to defend their Country and only strike within Russia immediate threats to their homeland. You will not see Ukraine do any sort of counterattack to strike at Moscow directly.

Ukraine attacked Belarus

Do you have a source?

Lukashenko: Ukrainian air targets destroyed over Belarus and Russia

"This is not the first time that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have violated all agreements <...> They violated all rules of conduct and violated the airspace of the Republic of Belarus (in the area of ​​the Kostyukovichi district). Therefore, the air defense forces were put on full combat alert. Airplanes and a helicopter were sent out to intercept the targets - there were about ten of them <...> No provocations will go unanswered," the Belarusian President said.

Source: Belta

https://www.belta.by/president/view/lukashenko-zajavil-ob-unichtozhenii-vozdushnyh-tselej-iz-ukrainy-nad-territoriej-belarusi-i-rossii-653464-2024/

This post was edited by Norlander on Aug 10 2024 04:03am

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So right now it's waiting for the debris of those targets that were downed.

Another possible escalation,

Now Lukashenko has his hands untied to open another front and keep Ukraine busy while Putin is dealing with the recent Kursk offensive.

This post was edited by Norlander on Aug 10 2024 04:11am

Yeah I was reading that between the lines

Russia is not sending t-14 armatas to the front for the same reason Ukraine is getting out-dated tanks. Drone warfare has turned them into obsolete boomer-weapons.
Russias black sea fleet also got destroyed due to USV's and long range missles (the same thing is happening to uncle sam in the Red sea) Russias SSBNs are the most important assest of the Russian navy and they are just fine.

So I can agree with you that Russia was woefully underprepaired for drone warfare and ukranine has parity in terms of drone quality/drone spam but Russia (as well as ukraine) HAS adapted to this new style of combat. What's happening in this war is literally changing how maneuver warfare is conducted and both Ukraine and Russia are adapting at a break-neck pace. You can look at recent developments in drones/AI/datalinks/ElectronicWarfare for both parties. Tanks and large blue Navy's are obsolete; drones and IFVs are the future.

Also, Ukraine might not March to Moscow but what everyone is wondering is wether or not uncle sam will give Ukraine the green light to use ATACMS on Russian airfields: