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Jul 29 2024 06:52pm
Quote (Djunior @ 30 Jul 2024 02:16)

Okay, maybe not Dnipro, but Zaporizhzhia and Kherson cover almost all the territory to the east of the Dnieper anyway.


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That said it cannot be denied they're in a far better position to drop further demands than they were in 2022 when the overstretched and exposed Russian forces were routed by the Ukrainians who'd volunteered in large numbers.

Like I said before, should've taken that peace deal back in 2022 eh Boris

You definitely have the timelines mixed up on that one, though. The Istanbul peace deal which was allegedly torpedoed by Boris was in April 2022, the Ukrainian counteroffensive which drove back the Russians from Kharkiv and Kherson took place in the late summer/early fall of 2022.

Imho, the time to negotiate was in the spring of 2023, before Ukraine's ill-fated spring counteroffensive. Russia had just exhausted absurd amounts of troops on capturing Bakhmut after 10 months of battle, morale was low, ammunition supplies were suboptimal, the Wagner revolt was imminent and Russia still had the scare from 2022 in mind. Ukraine had just received a big amount of Western arms supplies for its spring counteroffensive and was armed to the teeth, with plenty of relatively fresh troops still available.

Instead of wasting all the modern equipment and troops on the misguided attempt at running head-first into heavily fortified Russian positions to meet the unrealistic expectations of its Western partners, Ukraine should have sat back on their stockpile and then come to the negotiating table. At that point in time, Ukraine's military strength had peaked, Russia came off of 9+ months during which they captured exactly one single city (at a huge blood toll no less) and the future course of the war looked highly uncertain. Imho, that's the point in time when Russia might have accepted a deal enshrining the status quo.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 30 2024 02:52am)
Okay, maybe not Dnipro, but Zaporizhzhia and Kherson cover almost all the territory to the east of the Dnieper anyway.



You definitely have the timelines mixed up on that one, though. The Istanbul peace deal which was allegedly torpedoed by Boris was in April 2022, the Ukrainian counteroffensive which drove back the Russians from Kharkiv and Kherson took place in the late summer/early fall of 2022.

Imho, the time to negotiate was in the spring of 2023, before Ukraine's ill-fated spring counteroffensive. Russia had just exhausted absurd amounts of troops on capturing Bakhmut after 10 months of battle, morale was low, ammunition supplies were suboptimal, the Wagner revolt was imminent and Russia still had the scare from 2022 in mind. Ukraine had just received a big amount of Western arms supplies for its spring counteroffensive and was armed to the teeth, with plenty of relatively fresh troops still available.

Instead of wasting all the modern equipment and troops on the misguided attempt at running head-first into heavily fortified Russian positions to meet the unrealistic expectations of its Western partners, Ukraine should have sat back on their stockpile and then come to the negotiating table. At that point in time, Ukraine's military strength had peaked, Russia came off of 9+ months during which they captured exactly one single city (at a huge blood toll no less) and the future course of the war looked highly uncertain. Imho, that's the point in time when Russia might have accepted a deal enshrining the status quo.


I'm not mixing up any timelines, the exposed Russian columns were being picked off right from the beginning.

And the "right time" to negotiate was before the conflict, the whole thing could've been avoided. The 2022 Istanbul deal provided another option to end the war but was torpedoed by the West.

Saying "what is to stop Russia to put down more demands" is cope at this point really. If you say "lets just fight" (Boris Johnson) and you get smashed on the battlefield then you just lost.
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Quote (Malopox @ Jul 29 2024 09:17am)
Breaching MTCR framework is a double-edged sword.

Developing mrbms without outside help and with a destroyed industrial base requires more than a few smuggled 3d printers and aliexpress drone engines.

Assistance from eg US in development of mrbms would go against MTCR framework means Russia would be free to share their latest missile tech as well and I’m not sure American allies will appreciate North Korea, China, India or Iran obtaining Avangard class missiles.


While I obviously don't have a logical rebuttal to your post, I refuse to believe that the official position of uncle sam under Trump will remain: "to the last Ukrainian"

I just read an article about how there's only six trained f16 pilots for ukraine. If I were them I would spend all trumps lend lease dollars on north Korean missles and hope for the best. Or ya know, they can just slowly lose to the Russian war machine.
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Jul 30 2024 03:50am
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"Russian Economy Devastated.

Elvira Nabiullina, the person brought in by Putin to prop up the Russian economy to try to make it appear successful has announced the exhaustion of the last reserves of the Russian economy.

The reserves of labor force and production capacity in the economy are "practically exhausted," the head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina said at a press conference. Now the economy is in a state of "overheating", the scale of which has become a record for at least the last 16 years.

True, russian GDP is increasing by 5%, but only thanks state funded increase in arms production, while inflation is accelerating."

At the same time, business has practically no opportunities to increase the production of goods and services. The shortage of personnel and production capacity "may lead to a situation where economic growth rates will slow down, despite all attempts to stimulate demand," the head of the Central Bank warned. "In fact, this is a stagflation scenario, and it will only be possible to stop it at the cost of a deep recession."

The Central Bank is trying to fight this outcome by rising the key rate again to 18%, the highest among the world's major economies, and, according to the Central Bank's forecast, will remain in double digits at least until the end of 2026.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jul 30 2024 03:51am
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"Russian Economy Devastated.

Elvira Nabiullina, the person brought in by Putin to prop up the Russian economy to try to make it appear successful has announced the exhaustion of the last reserves of the Russian economy.

The reserves of labor force and production capacity in the economy are "practically exhausted," the head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina said at a press conference. Now the economy is in a state of "overheating", the scale of which has become a record for at least the last 16 years.

True, russian GDP is increasing by 5%, but only thanks state funded increase in arms production, while inflation is accelerating."

At the same time, business has practically no opportunities to increase the production of goods and services. The shortage of personnel and production capacity "may lead to a situation where economic growth rates will slow down, despite all attempts to stimulate demand," the head of the Central Bank warned. "In fact, this is a stagflation scenario, and it will only be possible to stop it at the cost of a deep recession."

The Central Bank is trying to fight this outcome by rising the key rate again to 18%, the highest among the world's major economies, and, according to the Central Bank's forecast, will remain in double digits at least until the end of 2026.


Let's see what will accelerate faster: the inflation, or Elvira after she slips on a banana peel and falls out of a window...

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"Russian Economy Devastated.

Elvira Nabiullina, the person brought in by Putin to prop up the Russian economy to try to make it appear successful has announced the exhaustion of the last reserves of the Russian economy.

The reserves of labor force and production capacity in the economy are "practically exhausted," the head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina said at a press conference. Now the economy is in a state of "overheating", the scale of which has become a record for at least the last 16 years.

True, russian GDP is increasing by 5%, but only thanks state funded increase in arms production, while inflation is accelerating."

At the same time, business has practically no opportunities to increase the production of goods and services. The shortage of personnel and production capacity "may lead to a situation where economic growth rates will slow down, despite all attempts to stimulate demand," the head of the Central Bank warned. "In fact, this is a stagflation scenario, and it will only be possible to stop it at the cost of a deep recession."

The Central Bank is trying to fight this outcome by rising the key rate again to 18%, the highest among the world's major economies, and, according to the Central Bank's forecast, will remain in double digits at least until the end of 2026.


A literal copy paste from a NAFO account. Absolutely braindead sensationalist take. You should really stop following NAFO trolls, they are literally melting your brain with their idiocy as well as doing a massive disservice to genuine support for Ukraine.

If anyone cares, here is a more reasonable explanation what is going. CBR acknowledges inflation caused by economy doing better than expected, corporate earnings high despite sanctions, salaries increasing, people spend on stuff domestically pushing prices up. CBR forecasts normalization to 4% inflation for 2025-2026 after hikes, which is hardly a stagflation.

https://www.intellinews.com/russia-s-cbr-ups-key-interest-rate-by-whopping-200bp-to-18-raises-gdp-growth-forecast-to-3-5-for-2024-335680/

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Russia’s CBR ups key interest rate by whopping 200bp to 18%, raises GDP growth forecast to 3.5% for 2024

Russia’s CBR ups key interest rate by whopping 200bp to 18%, raises GDP growth forecast to 3.5% for 2024 The CBR has hiked the prime interest rate by a hefty 200bp in its battle with inflation, but has also increased this year growth forecast to 3.5%.

The board of the Central Bank of Russia (CBR) increased the key interest rate by 2 percentage points from 16% to 18%, in line with consensus expectations, at the policy meeting on July 26. This marks the first rate hike since December 2023, when the CBR hiked the rate from 15% to 16%.

As followed by bne IntelliNews, the CBR's board at the last June 7 policy meeting also resolved to keep the key interest rate unchanged at 16%, making a neutral rate decision for the fourth consecutive time. (chart)

The CBR also hiked its forecast for the country's GDP growth to 3.5-4% this year, adjusting its medium-term forecast at the same meeting. At the same time, the Central Bank lowered its GDP growth forecast for 2025 to 0.5-1.5%. Previously the figure was at 1-2%. The forecast for 2026 was reduced to 1-2% from the previously expected 1.5-2.5%. In 2027, the regulator expects economic growth in the range of 1.5-2.5%.

With mounting inflationary pressures building up, the regulator was expected to significantly hike the interest rate at the July 26 policy meeting. The CBR officials have been clearly guiding for another key rate hike and a prolonged monetary policy tightening.

The forecast for the average key rate for the current year has increased to 16.9-17.4% from 15-16%. Next year, the CBR anticipates the average key rate to be around 14-16%.

The CBR followed up on its guidance and has resolved to notably hike the key interest rate despite the easing of the weekly inflation in July, slowing down of the industrial output growth in June, rolling back of the state mortgage support programme, and other recent signs of somewhat milder economic overheating.

“Inflation has accelerated and is trending well above the CBR’s April forecast. The growth of domestic demand continues to significantly outpace the ability to expand the supply of goods and services. Additional monetary policy tightening is required for inflation to start falling again,” the CBR commented in the press release.

Notably, the CBR reiterated its previously telegraphed hawkish stance and warnings that a prolonged tight monetary policy cycle is under way, by adding that “monetary conditions substantially tighter than previously assumed are needed to bring inflation back to target”.

The regulator also raised its inflation forecast for 2024 to 6.5%-7%, making a pronounced worsening of the inflation outlook from the previous 4.3%-4.8%. The CBR still expects the inflation to fall to 4-4.5% in 2025 and to 4% in 2026 (previously the regulator had hoped to see 4% target inflation already in 2025).

The CBR also reiterated its view that the economy is overheating. "Consumer activity remains high against the backdrop of significant growth in household incomes and confident consumer sentiment. Strong investment demand is supported by both budgetary incentives and high corporate profits. The upward deviation of the Russian economy from the balanced growth trajectory is not diminishing," the CBR commented.

The analysts surveyed by RBC business portal expect the CBR to hike the key rate at least once more by the end of 2024, with some not ruling out a key rate of 20% by the end of 2024. The CBR indeed stressed that it "will assess the feasibility of further increases in the key rate at its next meetings".

Rosbank commented that CBR’s rhetoric in the press release is tougher than expected, with the analysts reading the wording on potential further interest rate action as “a base case scenario of another key rate hike in September”.

The analysts are seeing a clear signal that the CBR is willing to keep the key rate at high levels while the economy is overheating, the labour market remains tight and foreign trade uncertain. ​





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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 30 2024 05:50am)
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"Russian Economy Devastated.

Elvira Nabiullina, the person brought in by Putin to prop up the Russian economy to try to make it appear successful has announced the exhaustion of the last reserves of the Russian economy.

The reserves of labor force and production capacity in the economy are "practically exhausted," the head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina said at a press conference. Now the economy is in a state of "overheating", the scale of which has become a record for at least the last 16 years.

True, russian GDP is increasing by 5%, but only thanks state funded increase in arms production, while inflation is accelerating."

At the same time, business has practically no opportunities to increase the production of goods and services. The shortage of personnel and production capacity "may lead to a situation where economic growth rates will slow down, despite all attempts to stimulate demand," the head of the Central Bank warned. "In fact, this is a stagflation scenario, and it will only be possible to stop it at the cost of a deep recession."

The Central Bank is trying to fight this outcome by rising the key rate again to 18%, the highest among the world's major economies, and, according to the Central Bank's forecast, will remain in double digits at least until the end of 2026.


War spending (and to a lesser extent, war recruitment) has vacuumed up all excess labor, which has caused real wages to rise dramatically. As Nabiullina (head of the Russian Central Bank) points out, the economy is overheated, with absolutely no slack in unemployment to draw down on. With close to maximum employment, production in the wider economy is obviously maxed out as well. Private spending is still high, which is spurring inflation. The Central Bank is run by technocrats (Nabiullina is a great example), and they're going to hike rates significantly in an effort to rein in inflation.

This does not mean that the Russian economy is "devastated", but it does mean that there are detrimental effects to spending prodigiously on war, namely that war growth comes at the expense of non-war growth and competes with the wider economy for goods and labor.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 30 2024 11:50am)
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

"Russian Economy Devastated.

Elvira Nabiullina, the person brought in by Putin to prop up the Russian economy to try to make it appear successful has announced the exhaustion of the last reserves of the Russian economy.

The reserves of labor force and production capacity in the economy are "practically exhausted," the head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina said at a press conference. Now the economy is in a state of "overheating", the scale of which has become a record for at least the last 16 years.

True, russian GDP is increasing by 5%, but only thanks state funded increase in arms production, while inflation is accelerating."

At the same time, business has practically no opportunities to increase the production of goods and services. The shortage of personnel and production capacity "may lead to a situation where economic growth rates will slow down, despite all attempts to stimulate demand," the head of the Central Bank warned. "In fact, this is a stagflation scenario, and it will only be possible to stop it at the cost of a deep recession."

The Central Bank is trying to fight this outcome by rising the key rate again to 18%, the highest among the world's major economies, and, according to the Central Bank's forecast, will remain in double digits at least until the end of 2026.


Google Russian debt and compare to UK debt, US debt or (lol) Italian debt

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Quote (Djunior @ 30 Jul 2024 13:11)
Google Russian debt and compare to UK debt, US debt or (lol) Italian debt

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The US can money-print its way out of its debt, though. Good luck to Russia if they're trying to find someone who buys their worthless rubles. Russia has significant, continuing revenue from natural resources sales, particularly oil and gas. Those create a steady stream of hard currency, but beyond that, they have very little financial breathing room. The rest of their economy is worth shit.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 31 Jul 2024 07:35)
The US can money-print its way out of its debt, though. Good luck to Russia if they're trying to find someone who buys their worthless rubles. Russia has significant, continuing revenue from natural resources sales, particularly oil and gas. Those create a steady stream of hard currency, but beyond that, they have very little financial breathing room. The rest of their economy is worth shit.


No they can't. There is a limit they can money print.
There is going to be a huge reset.

It is not a West versus East plus Russia and global south anymore.
"Money" is just numbers. We are facing a catastrophe if this continues.

You know very well what I m talking about.
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