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Jul 27 2021 12:34am
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Maybe we should just stick with what actually happened instead of silly hypotheticals?


I'm just trying to put things into perspective. Covid has proven to be a highly polarizing issue all across the Western world. To name just one example: this April, during the third wave, we had a poll here in Germany in which 40% were in favor of tightening restrictions, 20% wanted to keep the current level and 38% wanted to relax them.

Given how bitterly divided America is on basically everything these days, and how pretty much every new issue tends to be sorted into partisan categories, I think it is a pipedream to assume that the US could have been unified for more than maybe a month or so on covid policy if only the president had struck a different tone.

The pandemic was always going to mercilessly expose the weaknesses and fault lines of American society. Given polarization and hyperpartisanship, the situation was always gonna be really bad. (And yes, Trump made a bad situation even worse...)
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Jul 27 2021 12:37am
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I'm just trying to put things into perspective. Covid has proven to be a highly polarizing issue all across the Western world. To name just one example: this April, during the third wave, we had a poll here in Germany in which 40% were in favor of tightening restrictions, 20% wanted to keep the current level and 38% wanted to relax them.

Given how bitterly divided America is on basically everything these days, and how pretty much every new issue tends to be sorted into partisan categories, I think it is a pipedream to assume that the US could have been unified for more than maybe a month or so on covid policy if only the president had struck a different tone.

The pandemic was always going to mercilessly expose the weaknesses and fault lines of American society. Given polarization and hyperpartisanship, the situation was always gonna be really bad. (And yes, Trump made a bad situation even worse...)


when trump won the election the left went into full TDS rage and they still havent slowed down.
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Jul 27 2021 12:37am
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when trump won the election the left went into full TDS rage and they still havent slowed down.


Biden won
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Jul 27 2021 12:42am
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We have no indication that if Trump had come out as a Covid hawk he wouldn't have had the support of Democrats on reasonable measures, and plenty of papers were published showing Trump was the focal point for the majority of Covid misinformation getting spread.


Oh please...

First, every position Trump takes would instantly have been labelled as "unreasonable/extremist" by the press.
Second, there's no way Democrats would have given Trump such a huge success in terms of bipartisanship and leadership in an election year. That would have been electoral suicide for them.
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Biden won


*president
good for trolling :)
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Jul 27 2021 12:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 27 2021 01:42am)
Oh please...

First, every position Trump takes would instantly have been labelled as "unreasonable/extremist" by the press.
Second, there's no way Democrats would have given Trump such a huge success in terms of bipartisanship and leadership in an election year. That would have been electoral suicide for them.


That's exceptionally dumb lol. They passed two stimulus bills. You have direct counter examples right in front of you.

Once again, you're confusing what Republicans actually do with what you wish democrats would do.
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Jul 27 2021 12:50am
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That's exceptionally dumb lol. They passed two stimulus bills. You have direct counter examples right in front of you.

Once again, you're confusing what Republicans actually do with what you wish democrats would do.


Passing stimulus in the spring of 2020 was inevitable, and it was in the Democrats' best interest. Being seen as obstructionists in THAT situation would've been a disaster. Also, in the fall of 2020, Pelosi actually let go of the opportunity to pass another round of covid relief with a bigger scope than what Congressional Republicans were comfortable with. Trump more or less broke with his own party in this regard. (Again: out of selfish reasons, he was desperate at that point and getting as much money into the pockets of the people as possible was his hail mary.)

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Jul 27 2021 12:53am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 26 2021 11:44pm)
That's exceptionally dumb lol. They passed two stimulus bills. You have direct counter examples right in front of you.

Once again, you're confusing what Republicans actually do with what you wish democrats would do.


nope, dont be such a wrap up smear person. no matter how many times he would do it they still come at him. and they get away with it because people want to believe it


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Jul 27 2021 02:52am
Im pretty sure everyone on jsp is either in denial, confused, or plain stupid. About everything and anything.
Luckily we were given the fat prodigy thor to show us the way.

Follow his logic in which everything is conspiracy unless proven differently.
Once proven, its a thing we dont talk about anymore and never mention it again.
Really took 440 pages for some to still live without knowing this crucial fact.
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Jul 27 2021 05:16am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 27 2021 08:34am)
I'm just trying to put things into perspective. Covid has proven to be a highly polarizing issue all across the Western world. To name just one example: this April, during the third wave, we had a poll here in Germany in which 40% were in favor of tightening restrictions, 20% wanted to keep the current level and 38% wanted to relax them.

Given how bitterly divided America is on basically everything these days, and how pretty much every new issue tends to be sorted into partisan categories, I think it is a pipedream to assume that the US could have been unified for more than maybe a month or so on covid policy if only the president had struck a different tone.

The pandemic was always going to mercilessly expose the weaknesses and fault lines of American society. Given polarization and hyperpartisanship, the situation was always gonna be really bad. (And yes, Trump made a bad situation even worse...)


what third wave?
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