Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 15 2024 11:59am)
Since 2023 only? I see. The failure to capture and hold any major city before then was all imagination?
Retreat from Kiev, Kharkiv, Kherson and failure to push on Odessa all pale in comparison too Russian pyrrhic victory in Bhakmut?
What part of Russia failing all its miltary objectives = Ukraine losing bitterly?
Russia have suffered half a million dead or wounded in exchange for roughly 10% more of Ukraines territory.
The ruble has been obliterated and Russian economy is essentially a vassal of China.
The economy is brutally overheating making equipment that is being destroyed in the war and serves no exponential benefit to the Russian economy.
Ukraine was supposed to roll over in a matter of days or weeks. The fact they haven't proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Russian military is extraordinarily incompetent.
Of all the things to argue about the cause or justification of the war aside. Arguing that Russia can claim a worthwhile victory is mind boggingly naive, even by your standards.
We are inferior to former commies? :rofl:
Admit it, attacking a NATO country is the scary movie you never want to see happen comrade.
You cannot compare the early stages of the war to the present situation but you know that.
Russia invaded Ukraine with a rather small force and received fierce resistance from motivated Ukrainians equipped with javelins / NLAWs / stingers that were provided by the West, planeloads were rushed in after the invasion. Ukraine could effectively use these to target the exposed and overstretched Russians.
Right now it's a completely different situation. The Russians have A LOT more men and material committed and are well dug in behind fortified lines and minefields.
Progress is slow but steady and this is the nature of this war where drone's see everything (demonstrated by Ukraine's great counteroffensive where their elite brigades that were trained and equipped by the West were crushed while making little progress).
The battle for Bakhmut most definitely wasn't a pyrrhic victory, it was Ukraine's Stalingrad where they committed brigade after brigade, determined to hold fortress Bakhmut
but were defeated by the Russians.
You're trying to downplay that Russian victory, you're massively coping comrade.
And Russia is a vasal of China because Russia is now selling their stuff to China instead of selling it to the West? Massive, massive cope
Companies in the West have lost access to Russian raw materials and the sanctions completely backfired.
I would stop watching MSM channels that have become government mouthpieces, not even talking about Ukrainian propaganda channels like Davydov's, the Ukrainian living in Switzerland who's raking in clicks by uploading "Ruzzia kaput" vids (targeting gullible Westerners)