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Quote (Norlander @ Jul 15 2024 04:05am)
Ukrainians :) The same Ukrainians of the largest communist party of USSR, that waged Holodomor on it's own people? Ukrainian without a sergeant stripes is like an inquiry without a stamp. Cheers.


What does this mean or infer?
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Quote (Santara @ 15 Jul 2024 12:00)
What does this mean or infer?


A direct translation from old USSR saying: “хохол без лычки, что справка без печати”.

Means roughly that Ukranians are perceived as lazy that do not like to fight or do grunt work.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 15 Jul 2024 12:59)
Since 2023 only? I see. The failure to capture and hold any major city before then was all imagination?
Retreat from Kiev, Kharkiv, Kherson and failure to push on Odessa all pale in comparison too Russian pyrrhic victory in Bhakmut?

What part of Russia failing all its miltary objectives = Ukraine losing bitterly?

Russia have suffered half a million dead or wounded in exchange for roughly 10% more of Ukraines territory.
The ruble has been obliterated and Russian economy is essentially a vassal of China.
The economy is brutally overheating making equipment that is being destroyed in the war and serves no exponential benefit to the Russian economy.

Ukraine was supposed to roll over in a matter of days or weeks. The fact they haven't proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Russian military is extraordinarily incompetent.


Isn't it like 20% that even Zionsky has no voice to argue about? Also Isn't it Ukraine to exchange its dead and wounded 5 to 1? With all the air and artillery superiority don't you think Ukrainians suffer more losses than half million you are talking about? Do you want them to continue? To continue untill the last Ukrainian just to scratch Putinist Russia? Don't ever talk about Navalny and the opposition to Putin. You just want both Russia and Ukraine to eradicate itself in this fratricide.
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Quote (Malopox @ Jul 15 2024 05:06am)
A direct translation from old USSR saying: “хохол без лычки, что справка без печати”.

Means roughly that Ukranians are perceived as lazy that do not like to fight or do grunt work.


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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 15 Jul 2024 12:59)
Since 2023 only? I see. The failure to capture and hold any major city before then was all imagination?
Retreat from Kiev, Kharkiv, Kherson and failure to push on Odessa all pale in comparison too Russian pyrrhic victory in Bhakmut?

What part of Russia failing all its miltary objectives = Ukraine losing bitterly?

Russia have suffered half a million dead or wounded in exchange for roughly 10% more of Ukraines territory.
The ruble has been obliterated and Russian economy is essentially a vassal of China.
The economy is brutally overheating making equipment that is being destroyed in the war and serves no exponential benefit to the Russian economy.

Ukraine was supposed to roll over in a matter of days or weeks. The fact they haven't proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Russian military is extraordinarily incompetent.


Isn't it like 20% of the territory that even Zionsky has no voice to argue about? Also Isn't it Ukraine to exchange its dead and wounded 5 to 1? With all the air and artillery superiority don't you think Ukrainians suffer more losses than half million you are talking about? Do you want them to continue? To continue untill the last Ukrainian just to scratch Putinist Russia? Don't ever talk about Navalny and the opposition to Putin. You just want both Russia and Ukraine to eradicate itselves n this fratricide.

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A man attempting to escape across the border in Ukraine was shot and killed by the border guards in broad daylight and with other people taking pictures. Reportedly a 39 year old that had been forcibly drafted by the TCC a month earlier and tried to get out of a car and run for the Transistrian border outside Odessa across a field, and a border guard gunned him down as he ran

Basically Ukraine is echoing east berlin now. Runaways trying to cross into europe will be shot

MoD put out a statement saying the border guard fired in self defense after being attacked, while the guys companions posted pictures of his body gunned down in an empty field where he had tried to run from the gunman- he was halfway through the field with no cover and shot in the back

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 15 2024 11:59am)
Since 2023 only? I see. The failure to capture and hold any major city before then was all imagination?
Retreat from Kiev, Kharkiv, Kherson and failure to push on Odessa all pale in comparison too Russian pyrrhic victory in Bhakmut?

What part of Russia failing all its miltary objectives = Ukraine losing bitterly?

Russia have suffered half a million dead or wounded in exchange for roughly 10% more of Ukraines territory.
The ruble has been obliterated and Russian economy is essentially a vassal of China.
The economy is brutally overheating making equipment that is being destroyed in the war and serves no exponential benefit to the Russian economy.

Ukraine was supposed to roll over in a matter of days or weeks. The fact they haven't proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Russian military is extraordinarily incompetent.

Of all the things to argue about the cause or justification of the war aside. Arguing that Russia can claim a worthwhile victory is mind boggingly naive, even by your standards.

We are inferior to former commies? :rofl:
Admit it, attacking a NATO country is the scary movie you never want to see happen comrade.


You cannot compare the early stages of the war to the present situation but you know that.

Russia invaded Ukraine with a rather small force and received fierce resistance from motivated Ukrainians equipped with javelins / NLAWs / stingers that were provided by the West, planeloads were rushed in after the invasion. Ukraine could effectively use these to target the exposed and overstretched Russians.


Right now it's a completely different situation. The Russians have A LOT more men and material committed and are well dug in behind fortified lines and minefields.

Progress is slow but steady and this is the nature of this war where drone's see everything (demonstrated by Ukraine's great counteroffensive where their elite brigades that were trained and equipped by the West were crushed while making little progress).


The battle for Bakhmut most definitely wasn't a pyrrhic victory, it was Ukraine's Stalingrad where they committed brigade after brigade, determined to hold fortress Bakhmut but were defeated by the Russians.

You're trying to downplay that Russian victory, you're massively coping comrade.


And Russia is a vasal of China because Russia is now selling their stuff to China instead of selling it to the West? Massive, massive cope :thumbsup:

Companies in the West have lost access to Russian raw materials and the sanctions completely backfired.


I would stop watching MSM channels that have become government mouthpieces, not even talking about Ukrainian propaganda channels like Davydov's, the Ukrainian living in Switzerland who's raking in clicks by uploading "Ruzzia kaput" vids (targeting gullible Westerners)

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Seems like the guy just didn't want to go back there after vacation. Officer has a band of military police, they don't catch draft dodgers, they deal with other military men.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 15 Jul 2024 11:59)
Ukraine was supposed to roll over in a matter of days or weeks. The fact they haven't proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Russian military is extraordinarily incompetent.

Russia's population and economy were "only" roughly 3 times bigger than Ukraine's. That's not enough of a size disparity to expect a quick and effortless victory anyway.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 15 2024 03:03pm
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