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Jul 14 2024 10:18am


Quote (Norlander @ Jul 14 2024 06:07pm)
Compare to Gaza


Don't try to excuse war crimes by others war crimes:

Even Israel didn't deport hundred thousands children and Ukraine is not lead by terrorist group.

Regarding History: Russia is #2 with its purges, gulag etc & holomordor. More than Nazis, and /e - only -beaten by China in flat numbers.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ 14 Jul 2024 19:18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7g_KtcZ4TE



Don't try to excuse war crimes by others war crimes:

Even Israel didn't deport hundred thousands children and Ukraine is not lead by terrorist group.

Regarding History: Russia is #2 with its purges, gulag etc & holomordor. More than Nazis, and /e - only -beaten by China in flat numbers.


Wasn't communism made by the French :) ? Meanwhile Azov neo-nazis are forming ZelenJugend right now.

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Quote (Norlander @ Jul 14 2024 06:52pm)
Wasn't communism made by the French :) ? Meanwhile Azov neo-nazis are forming ZelenJugend right now.

https://i.imgur.com/mau3ouB.jpeg


This is english forum. Azov is not what many people say about it, wikipedia can help them. Russia has a much bigger problem with far right and nazis.

Seems you changed topic finally :)
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Jul 14 2024 11:01am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 14 2024 06:18pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7g_KtcZ4TE

Don't try to excuse war crimes by others war crimes:

Even Israel didn't deport hundred thousands children and Ukraine is not lead by terrorist group.

Regarding History: Russia is #2 with its purges, gulag etc & holomordor. More than Nazis, and /e - only -beaten by China in flat numbers.


No one here is excusing war crimes. He pointed out far more serious stuff in Gaza (genocide) which is being under reported and marginalized (except when you tune in to Aljazeera, they show what's happening there on a day to day basis).

And another Denys Davidov vid with propaganda thumbnail, lol

That village doesn't mean anything while a whole bunch of important frontline changes took place over the last couple days. You should check the map updates instead of Davidov propaganda.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 14 Jul 2024 19:55)
This is english forum. Azov is not what many people say about it, wikipedia can help them. Russia has a much bigger problem with far right and nazis.

Seems you changed topic finally :)


The topic stays the same. It's Russia/Ukraine. Not USSR/China. And regarding this:
It is widely documented that Israel committed (and continues to commit) the wholesale ethnic cleansing via forced displacement (or murder), of non-jewish people from Greater Israel (inc. the West Bank). Even as Israel was carpet bombing Gaza, it continued to look the other way while Palestinians were forced from their lands in the West Bank by jewish settlers, aided and abetted by Israeli security forces. This is not a sudden development, but it has exponentially increased since the terrorist attack last year. At the same time it is widely reported that Israel continues (for years) to imprison Palestinians in great numbers and there are several articles about the humans rights abuses against men, women and children, i.e. rape, torture, etc. Thats not even talking about collective punishment which Israel also does. While your comments re: whataboutism may be true, whataboutism has no place in a political forum. The fact remains that the Western world continues to support Israel, who have indiscriminately bombed Gaza into the stone age.

Now we come to it: The West supported Ukraine for 8 years while it bombed its own people with Cluster munitions. Zelensky was also interviewed (prior to the breakout of war) where he made no bones about it, he wanted to forcefully move the people of Eastern Ukraine OUT of Ukraine. This is also ethnic cleansing. The fact that that western media is reluctant to comment on this does not change the fact that it happened.

Russia has been slow to carpet bomb Ukraine, presumable due to shared history and a reluctance to go full Israel on Ukrainians. Nevertheless, as the West continues to push the envelope re: attacks on Russia direct, Russia (who do not want to surrender) is forced down a narrow path of reciprocal action (ever its go-to). Ultimately for Russia to win the war they would need to topple the Ukrainian government, which means taking Kyiv at the very least. That is not happening this year or next year. What IS expected to happen is more and heightened / increased whole sale slaughter, and yes, the bombing of more and more civilian targets in the misguided notion that this would break Ukraine's resolve (unlikely).
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Quote (Norlander @ 14 Jul 2024 19:03)
The topic stays the same. It's Russia/Ukraine. Not USSR/China. And regarding this:
It is widely documented that Israel committed (and continues to commit) the wholesale ethnic cleansing via forced displacement (or murder), of non-jewish people from Greater Israel (inc. the West Bank). Even as Israel was carpet bombing Gaza, it continued to look the other way while Palestinians were forced from their lands in the West Bank by jewish settlers, aided and abetted by Israeli security forces. This is not a sudden development, but it has exponentially increased since the terrorist attack last year. At the same time it is widely reported that Israel continues (for years) to imprison Palestinians in great numbers and there are several articles about the humans rights abuses against men, women and children, i.e. rape, torture, etc. Thats not even talking about collective punishment which Israel also does. While your comments re: whataboutism may be true, whataboutism has no place in a political forum. The fact remains that the Western world continues to support Israel, who have indiscriminately bombed Gaza into the stone age.

Now we come to it: The West supported Ukraine for 8 years while it bombed its own people with Cluster munitions. Zelensky was also interviewed (prior to the breakout of war) where he made no bones about it, he wanted to forcefully move the people of Eastern Ukraine OUT of Ukraine. This is also ethnic cleansing. The fact that that western media is reluctant to comment on this does not change the fact that it happened.

Russia has been slow to carpet bomb Ukraine, presumable due to shared history and a reluctance to go full Israel on Ukrainians. Nevertheless, as the West continues to push the envelope re: attacks on Russia direct, Russia (who do not want to surrender) is forced down a narrow path of reciprocal action (ever its go-to). Ultimately for Russia to win the war they would need to topple the Ukrainian government, which means taking Kyiv at the very least. That is not happening this year or next year. What IS expected to happen is more and heightened / increased whole sale slaughter, and yes, the bombing of more and more civilian targets in the misguided notion that this would break Ukraine's resolve (unlikely).


Force the people of Eastern Ukraine out of Ukraine, and then what? Who was gonna staff the factories, schools, hospitals and busses of the Donbass if all the people are gone? Even before this war broke out, it wasn't as if Ukraine had a demographic boom with a surge of young folks coming up, desperately looking for jobs/housing and gladly filling the void...

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No one here is excusing war crimes. He pointed out far more serious stuff in Gaza (genocide) which is being under reported and marginalized (except when you tune in to Aljazeera, they show what's happening there on a day to day basis).

And another Denys Davidov vid with propaganda thumbnail, lol

That village doesn't mean anything while a whole bunch of important frontline changes took place over the last couple days. You should check the map updates instead of Davidov propaganda.


There's no reason to constantly jump into the Israeli bombings train, Both are war crimes and Both Putin and Netanyahu are sued by the international court.

Davidov is giving fresh news, deal with, not to mention you a free to post own pro-russian or "magic neutral" videos, you may not be jailed for 7 years like they do in Russia.

Quote (Norlander @ Jul 14 2024 07:03pm)
The topic stays the same. It's Russia/Ukraine. Not USSR/China.


I am stopping you right there: Putin said USSR dissolution was the biggest mistake. Clearly he wants it back and already did partially.
China is a massive enabler of the Russian agression of Ukraine. Regarding Israel: It is only really supported by the U.S. and not "the west"

Now regarding the west supporting Ukraine... It did not supported it enough apparently. The ruscists crimes continue. (Btw: They are watching!)

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 14 2024 11:14am
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Jul 14 2024 11:13am
Removing the double post sry. I have to go off before my takeoff GL with all the violence.

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Jul 14 2024 11:20am
Actually he said that dissolution of USSR was a "big humanitarian tragedy" and it really was.

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Jul 14 2024 11:38am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 14 2024 07:07pm)
There's no reason to constantly jump into the Israeli bombings train, Both are war crimes and Both Putin and Netanyahu are sued by the international court.

Davidov is giving fresh news, deal with, not to mention you a free to post own pro-russian or "magic neutral" videos, you may not be jailed for 7 years like they do in Russia.

I am stopping you right there: Putin said USSR dissolution was the biggest mistake. Clearly he wants it back and already did partially.
China is a massive enabler of the Russian agression of Ukraine. Regarding Israel: It is only really supported by the U.S. and not "the west"

Now regarding the west supporting Ukraine... It did not supported it enough apparently. The ruscists crimes continue. (Btw: They are watching!)


Davydov posts Ukrainian propaganda, a look at his thumbnails is enough proof of that.

Secondly Ukrainian civilians cannot post videos or pics of Russian missile strikes for example, it's highly illegal and they could face jail sentences.

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