Those other reasons weren't the reasons given for the invasion. That's because the actual reasons for the invasion won't be given, because it robs worthless asshole trolls of their feigned claims of moral superiority.

More than once, I've had to correct you. I've got nothing against the Russian people. I have something against the Russian regime. But the regime is all that matters to you, since they pay your bills.

so people cannot salute a nazi killer (as you said), but russia can celebrate its atrocities. correct?

Some i'm sure, my point is, they aren't killing Africans on behalf of other Africans because they are white supremacists, they're doing it because those regimes are paying them. The Azov's on the other hand are clearly motivated by supremacists motives, there's no doubt about that, and not only that, they were getting western training and weapons and their president is giving them medals.

We all know and see that the battle for Mariupol was much more brutal, so you have to ask yourself why. For years the Azov battalion (based out of Mariupol) was going around beating, torturing, killing anyone dare be pro-Russian post 2014 Maidan in Ukrainian controlled parts of south and east (specifically those places as they have large % of populations who are ethnic Russians who may want to separate or be critical) . They were doing so with the government's blessing, doing so with western training and arms. You guys want to pretend this never happened so you can view this war as white and black which is dishonest man. Fuck the Russians for killing innocent people, I hope they go home tomorrow and their leaders get deposed but lets call a spade a spade otherwise we lose credibility.



Pretty poor trolling, have to do better.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 11 2022 05:03pm

Russia celebrates the victory over the Nazi's, not supposed atrocities they committed.

Maybe if you paid attention in history class you would know that Russia sacrificed 20 million people to defeat Nazi Germany. Thus it has had a huge impact on their national consciousness. Hence the celebrations of victory they hold yearly.

Ukraine on the other hand celebrates literal Nazi warcriminal scum like Bandera and pals.

We'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't think that's enough people dead to justify an invasion. Maybe if that many died in a single MONTH but it's small potatoes in an active conflict zone. To give you some perspective, that's roughly 3 times the number of homicides in Chicago. If we can accept a bunch of dead blacks in Chicago, we can easily accept that many dead slavs given the nature of the conflict.

those atrocities were committed, nothing supposed about those.

stalin murdered 20 million russians, that is true.

i dont care about the russians dead against germany.

isn't ukraine a free country able to celebrate whatever it sees fit? should we ask putin what to do from now on?

Oh right, you "only" hate the regime. But you also just so happen to hate anybody that supports said regime, which happens to be some ~80% of the Russian people based on Putin's popularity rating.

So the only Russians you don't hate are the ones that stand against Putin.

You also hate all Americans and Europeans who express support for Russia, which is millions of more people.

What it boils down to, is that ultimately you hate people for their personal beliefs.

Which is exactly what MLK advocated. Judge a person by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin.

These are the atrocities Bandera was involved in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Location Volhynia
Eastern Galicia
Polesie
Lublin region
Date 1943–1945
Target Poles
Attack type Massacre, ethnic cleansing
Deaths 50,000[1]–100,000[2][better source needed]
Perpetrators Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Mykola Lebed
Motive Anti-Polonism,[3][better source needed] Anti-Catholicism, Greater Ukraine ideology, Ukrainisation[citation needed]


They massacred 100 thousand Poles for fun. And you are defending them worshipping this criminal scumbag responsible for this massacre.

Oh right, but I forgot it's a free country and they can worship whoever they like

Nevermind the fact that these same Bandera worshippers have been busy murdering their own nation's citizens for the past 8 years, as well. Truly a radical ideology based in hatred and violence.