Putin will not withdraw volutarily: not only his own life but also his whole circle's life are depending on holding some positions. Kiev was a debacle, they had no other alternative than "technical or strategical repositioning".
Technically the swiss peace summit was more like of a gathering to agree on that collapsing the terrorist regime of Russia was the only solution, unfortunately.
Like i said the other day: many want to slowly bleed Russian regime to avoid any major drama (=controlled escalation/risk/dismantelment), this is not my choice; this is facts, pure (and hard) logic.

Chinese peace first point is to allow sovereignty of all countries so it clearly means Ukraine can do what it wants, including puting Nato Nuclear WarHeads all over the frontline and directly pointed to the Kremlin (who perfectly deserved it).

How many Russian WarHeads are pointed to western countries ? Even recently in Belarus ? There are no excuses. They have no excuses.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 17 2024 08:18am

You know what's hilarious? Your dodging every time I'm pointing out facts.

What about the promised artillery shells? And air defense interceptors now that we're at it.

Go go

You wouldn't know a fact if it drunk your vodka. Stop seeking my attention, it's pathetic.

Dear Europeans: if you want to defeat Russia, stop outsourcing arms procurement.

SINGAPORE Technologies Engineering : S63 -1.49% (ST Engineering) has won ammunition orders of more than S$100 million in total value from Europe between April and early June, the group announced on Monday (Jun 17).

Specifically, the orders are for 155 millimetre (mm) ammunition and 40mm ammunition. ST Engineering’s Defence and Public Security segment, which the latest order-winning Land Systems is a part of, bagged about S$1.7 billion worth of orders in the first quarter of FY2024 to March. The group’s order book stood at S$27.7 billion as at end-March.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/transport-logistics/st-engineering-bags-over-s100-million-ammunition-orders-europe

Also, the euros are unveiling their latest toys to defeat Russia. The Tridon Mk2 by bae looks promising, unfortunately Ukraine will never get these because the west is scared of them falling into Russian hands.

https://eurosatory.com
(Europe's largest arms trade show)

Your dodging

Pathetic




The superior Europeans outsourcing their arms procurement? Impossible!

???

This post was edited by Djunior on Jun 17 2024 09:27am

Nice LOL we are making money in Singapore

Wait a minute, how much grand total EU spent to SINGAPORE Technologies Engineering ? I means beyond the astounding number of 100 millions over 3-4 months ?

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 17 2024 10:37am

Let me remind you that the EU was supposed to supply Ukraine with 1 million artillery shell last year. How many were actually delivered?

Could this be the reason the EU is now desperately looking for shells?

Paper tiger confirmed, lol

Seems you have reading issues: how much EU spent over SINGAPORE Technologies Engineering (beyond the astounding number of 100 millions over 3-4 months ) ?

?