there is no rosy long term view for western europe, demographics, infrastructure, education are all in complete shambles

enjoy the caliphate

there is also no real worker shortage in germany except a handful of craftsman jobs and the rest in minimum wage (or like 2 bucks above) slave labor

that narrative only serves to push people into university to create an abundance so the big companies can hire engineers for 40k a year

If you read my post, the rosy long term outlook is in relation to Europe's energy needs.

exactly, they are the same arguments

the future energy needs wont be a problem.....because of deindustrialisation

you cant say that its a good outlook, when the place basically gets shut down

the green party and friends will celebrate lower energy consumption

meanwhile in reality even blue chip players like BASF are shutting down major parts of their ludwigshafen chemical plant, which for decades has been one of the best plants on the planet

The thing with Germany, in context of this war is they were duped into believing that the enemy is to the east and if they don't fully oppose Russia then it will be an objective net negative for them. "If we don't stop them here we are next" type hoaxes. In reality, Germany is/was not under any Russian threat and whether Ukraine remained under Russian sphere or moved to western was not that material to them. As an economic powerhouse, they don't need to compete with Russia but they compete with the US and China. Having access to cheap Russian energy gave them a material advantage to punch above it's weight and stay relevant. The real rivalry is economic in nature and it's from the US/China not commodity exporter Russia. By decoupling from cheap Russian energy, those other two benefit on a global scale while Germany will lose sizable market share. In the beginning, it was really easy to understand German reluctance because like why would they commit seppuku, what is actually there to gain? But then you could see the slow media pressures & other outside forces that basically forced Germany into this position. They should have had strong leaders to say, no we put our economic interest ahead of everything, but much of Europe's powers are basically controlled not by their sovereign elected leaders but by globalist neocon forces that believe only way is a unipolar world order.

Macron and a few others keep talking about creating an independent of US, Europe military and power base. Because in current state Europe basically is subservient to external geopolitical and economic interests. There's a reason he said something like this recently, because he knows behind the scenes who's calling the shots.




https://apnews.com/article/france-macron-europe-eu-paris-sorbonne-speech-a3f4de514a88ca324ed1c545fc3821c1

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North Sea Link and Hound Point pipe still exist despite UK actively encouraging terrorism towards Russian / German infrastructure.

you make a good point, the german government was very hesitant to do what it ended up doing

and that just proves one point again

the real decision making is not made in berlin, its done in washington d.c and they want to keep germany as a client state

now the germans will freeze in winter without big daddy americas premium priced gas

The UK has a critical airbase in Cyprus. Russia has a naval base in Syria.
That is the only version of some kind of direct attack I can foresee; In terms of a direct attack against military targets.

Aside from that underwater infrastructure. But then again, as always that is just more of the same from Russia; Whether its sabotage of espionage surmounting to poisoning former Russian agents on UK soil.
Most of what everyone calls an escalation on Russia's part is just more of the same from them.

What was the escalation after the West sent main battle tanks? Missile strikes and more bombing of civilian targets.
What was the escalation after the West announced sending long range artillery? More missile strikes and more bombing of civilian targets.
F-16s are announced. More threats of escalation, including nuclear threats and then more of the same.

Russia can hardly claim to be retaliating when they launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine, mobilised its industrial base and shifted to a wartime economy; All while the West, so we are told, have refused to do the same.
Putin is the instigator not the retaliator. Any alternative narrative is dishonest.

Furthermore Ukraine is already striking well within Russia with its own drones. And also using Western weapons on parts of Ukraine that Russia claim is now part of the Russian federation.

This is another bluff of Putin as he knows ATACMS will obliterate their supply lines and logistics within Russia itself.

What Israel does every single day using precision weapons provided by the West

Oh wait that must be a whataboutism

Israel has far right xenophobic and fanatic governement, agree. Russia is more like full of reckless brutes enslaving their own people, collaborating with terrorist governements like Iran or inhuman dictatorships like North Korea or China.
Can't find a good reasons to bomb a supermarket. Sorry lol.

Where did I say there was a good reason to bomb a supermarket?