Almost 50 days and no important city is under control. Good job.

I know you would love for all the world to be as ignorant as you are, but luckily it's not the case.

That would be a dark world indeed, if everyone were just like you.

Minor damage ?? the sanctions are going to be there for quite a while. my own view is they are going to do average damage in the short term until russia opens/finds new markets outside of the west ( i accept this probably won't take too long ). There is a big difference between minor and average.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 11 2022 01:24pm

Mariupol? Kherson?

Or does Russia only win if they take Kiev according to you?

The damage done to their military is so far quite minor compared to the size of the overall operation.

The economic damage is more significant, but this will basically be nullified in the long-run as Russia strengthens ties with China (and other friendly countries) and completely ends any reliance they once had on western imports, making them fully self-sufficient and independent from those whom would try to use economic blackmail to force them into submission.

Mariupol isn't. What about Tchernihiv, Kharkiv and Odessa? Not to mention reatreat from Kyiv.

Mariupol isn't fully under Russian control yet. It's taking Russia's best and most well equipped forces 7+ weeks to clear Mariupol, likely taking heavy casualties in the process

If NATO or even the US on its own attacked a city like Mariupol it would have been over in a week. Russia's reputation as a country with military strength has been utterly crushed



Russia equipment losses - 2757, of which: destroyed: 1446, damaged: 39, abandoned: 234, captured: 1038

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Seems significant to me. All visually confirmed

This post was edited by dro94 on Apr 11 2022 01:36pm

It's simply amazing.





To be fair, they've had time to prepare. It took the Marines a month to clear Fallujah.

And that was after they had carpet bombed the city into oblivion and killed a sizeable chunk of the local population before even going in.

A tactic which Russia has so far refused to use on areas populated by civilians, by the way, even knowing it will increase their own losses.

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Apr 11 2022 01:50pm

It significantly slows you down when you're trying your best to not raze a city to the ground and minimise civilian casualties