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May 28 2020 07:08pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ May 28 2020 09:05pm)
But you are more incensed by the property destruction than anything else.



False.
I’m pissed off that a guy lost his life for no reason.
That doesn’t justify theft, assault, or arson.
Nice try though
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May 28 2020 07:19pm
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You're conveniently ignoring the human life that is lost or put in danger by the riots. Stabbing people, burning down buildings while people are still inside, who the fuck cares.

"The right targets human life, the left only targets property" is a lie that's been told in antifa circles for decades. They would love the wider public to believe it, but it's rarely been more blatantly wrong than in this case.


Quote (thesnipa @ May 28 2020 06:08pm)
Fires can't kill people?


You're missing my point. My posts are directly commenting about folks more upset about the destruction of property than the loss of human life.
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May 28 2020 07:23pm
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Imagine prioritizing property over human life.


Why is it so hard to understand that someone can believe both situations are horrible?

Pretty much everyone is agreeing that Floyd was murdered and it is a tragedy. That doesn't mean we can't also think that the rioting and looting is dangerous and not necessary. Peaceful protesting sends a much better message and unites the nation on an issue that the majority would agree with. This idiotic rioting and looting is just adding gasoline to the problem.
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May 28 2020 07:25pm
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You're missing my point. My posts are directly commenting about folks more upset about the destruction of property than the loss of human life.


When criticizing looting or destruction of shops, is it really necessary, or even productive, to add the qualifier "... but of course the coldblooded murder of George Floyd was far worse"?


"Fuck those looters.... but the murder of George Floyd was worse"
"Jesus christ, they're setting buildings on fire while people are still in there... but the murder of George Floyd was worse"
"What sick kind of human being shoots down a pregnant woman? ... but she's not dead (yet?), so the murder of George Floyd was (still) worse"

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 28 2020 07:26pm
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May 28 2020 07:28pm
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When criticizing looting or destruction of shops, is it really necessary, or even productive, to add the qualifier "... but of course the coldblooded murder of George Floyd was far worse"?


"Fuck those looters.... but the murder of George Floyd was worse"
"Jesus christ, they're setting buildings on fire while people are still in there... but the murder of George Floyd was worse"
"What sick kind of human being shoots down a pregnant woman? ... but she's not dead (yet?), so the murder of George Floyd was (still) worse"


Yes, it is. If the major response that a significant portion of people are having in response to this situation is merely the denouncement of property destruction then the entire core issue is glossed over.
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May 28 2020 07:29pm
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Why is it so hard to understand that someone can believe both situations are horrible?

Pretty much everyone is agreeing that Floyd was murdered and it is a tragedy. That doesn't mean we can't also think that the rioting and looting is dangerous and not necessary. Peaceful protesting sends a much better message and unites the nation on an issue that the majority would agree with. This idiotic rioting and looting is just adding gasoline to the problem.


Can you provide examples where peaceful protesting alone in response to racist police brutality has been effective in the past 10 years?
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May 28 2020 07:32pm
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Peaceful protesting sends a much better message and unites the nation on an issue that the majority would agree with.


It didn't save this man's or countless others' lives. So I think it's reasonable for people affected to resort to any alternative to send an even louder message, even if it's not a better message. No, it's not a good thing that residences burn down, but it's not a good thing if this state of affairs continues indefinitely with people limiting themselves to expressions with a proven track record of failure.
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May 28 2020 07:34pm
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Can you provide examples where peaceful protesting alone in response to racist police brutality has been effective in the past 10 years?


So let me get this straight...

You are saying this violent and horrible rioting is going to be more successful than what MLK did back in the day?
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Can you provide examples where peaceful protesting alone in response to racist police brutality has been effective in the past 10 years?


Can you provide examples where violent or destructive protesting has been effective?

The correct perspective to have is that it is the usage of violence which needs to be justified, not its absence.
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May 28 2020 07:35pm
Quote (GPee @ May 29 2020 10:53am)
Trayvon Martin beat the snot out of Zimmerman. It was proven that he acted in self-defense. Nice try though


Zimmerman deserved it.
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