An issue here is still that she was pretty clearly retaliated against; she not only was fired from her office, but blacklisted from other D.C. offices and unable to find work. So lets say that's what it was, a woman being made uncomfortable by Handsy Joe and his office responds by burying her. Unsurprising for 1993 whether it was a full blown forcible rape or just a misperception of Joe invading her space, either way, but should it be any less damning? I'd be as or more concerned with the culture we can prove, than whatever we can't prove Biden did or didn't do. I mean, they did the next best thing to just driving her out into a desert and garroting her. What kind of message does it send to other women if they hear about how Reade spoke up and never worked another day of DC in her life?

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 15 2020 08:42pm

It is significantly worse if he actually assaulted her. Why the fuck would you even ask if its less damning? Obviously sexual assault makes it worse....

Perhaps she also had performance issues and then this was a "just get her out of our hair" moment? I dont know. To know why anything happened you would have to be familiar with the culture at the time, which is hard to find evidence for.

as in:
>{the way she was fired and blacklisted was} unsurprising for 1993 .... but should it be any less damning?
whether she was forcibly raped, or just made uncomfortable by Joe invading her space, either way, when she spoke up she lost her job and got blacklisted. The way they reacted to it should be considered damning either way.
I am pointing out the way her career was destroyed for speaking out.

Based on what? We're supposed to just take her word for it?

If she was fired for good cause, the same principle applies. She wouldn't be able to use the reference. I see on Wikipedia in the past she's provided other reasons for leaving DC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation

Reading this, and I'm seeing even more problems with her story.

You have only been finding "problems" with her story as an excuse to dismiss it without trying to posit any coherent theory to explain the facts we know. As long as pro-Biden reporters shovel some smears or unverifiable statements or theories to provide you with an excuse to doubt, you're willing to overlook all the contemporary verifiable evidence. And your belief in Biden's total denial then requires you to make absurd and implausible leaps to fill in the gaps of the story, a giant conspiracy theory spanning decades with a woman concocting a fake story and saving it 27 years and sticking adamantly to it even in private with her husband all so she could drop it at the least opportune moment of Joe's campaign in 2020. None of which makes a lick of sense.

If you actually cared about figuring out the truth of the story instead of convincing yourself of reasons to vote for Joe, you'd try to tailor your narrative to fit the details instead of the other way around.

reading wiki lmfao what a total war loving anti-intellectual




it’s pretty clear at this point that icepeon is anti-women. he hates his own mother for giving birth to him

Every story that is almost 30 years old will have issues.

It is definitely a lot more of a credible accusation than the Kavanaugh accusation. It at least has some people corroborating parts of her story. Take the good with the bad. Don't just look at one side.

In cases like these I don't think a coherent theory is that important. There's only so much we can know. Based on the evidence so far, it seems to me that Biden assaulting her is highly unlikely, yet we have corroboration from her early on. There's reporting that bolsters her case and hurts her case. I'm not discounting the evidence on her side, nor am I discounting the evidence against her. I'm considering all of it, and there's enough on the side against her that I don't believe her story.

I'm sure you think of yourself as someone just searching for the truth, but the reality is you're the biggest hack on the forum for a particular politician. You're desperate for a story that will sink him, and so you've clung to this one. I'm voting for him either way, if I thought Reade's story was credible I would say so.



I can agree with that.

This post was edited by IceMage on May 15 2020 09:57pm

Also, what does it say about her if we're forced to land in some middle ground? Reade is lying about the finger up the vagina, but Biden did something wrong to her, she complained, and she was retaliated against? That doesn't make much sense to me.

This post was edited by IceMage on May 15 2020 10:09pm

dude you still think ‘russia’ “hacked the election” lmfao