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May 11 2024 12:56pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 11 2024 07:02pm)
So there's all kinds of footage and pictures from the shelling of Belgorod today and it seems to be 100% random and indiscriminate, no attempt at all to strike any important targets. Random roadways, apartments, businesses, hospitals, parking lots. Plenty of damage and probably dead, but looks like its so poorly aimed at civilian areas the vast majority of strikes are just hitting empty lots, kind of like Hamas launching missiles indiscriminately at Israeli cities. Even in a dense urban area just hitting a random street or wall isn't actually going to kill people or cause serious damage on average, not unless you're full saturation firebombing like WW2. Its quite the contrast with Russia's use of FABs to tactically destroy one building or bunker at a time, or the Shaheds taking out utilities and infrastructure so methodically.
Can't link any compilations since at least a few of them actually had injuries or blood, but most of them just look like this, no humans in sight, no targets of value;

https://files.catbox.moe/r6cd3e.mp4


Its an absolute absurdity of 2024 that Joe Biden is being pressured by his base to cut off support for Israel on claims US weapons are being used against Gazan civilians when the uniparty is happy to keep sending weapons to Ukraine to.... what is being accomplished in this video? Shit its not even heinous to target an unoccupied parking lot next to a playground because I guarantee that shell was not aimed at all, just shot in the vague direction of the city.


Terrible, awful and dishonest comparison.
Gaza to Ukraine?
One is a few hundred football pitches, the other is hundreds of miles of a front.

Look at what Russia has been doing for over 2 years, indiscriminately shelling Ukrainian cities; And you have the audacity to claim a double standard in supplying Ukraine vs Israel?

Horrible contribution, one of if not your worst I have seen.
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May 11 2024 02:04pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 11 2024 08:56pm)
Terrible, awful and dishonest comparison.
Gaza to Ukraine?
One is a few hundred football pitches, the other is hundreds of miles of a front.

Look at what Russia has been doing for over 2 years, indiscriminately shelling Ukrainian cities; And you have the audacity to claim a double standard in supplying Ukraine vs Israel?

Horrible contribution, one of if not your worst I have seen.


WTF lol

Gaza was literally deprived of food water and electricity and razed to the ground including hospitals, universities and places of worship --> using Western supplied ordnance

Gaza is a few hundred football pitches where thousands of women and children are buried under the rubble and we all know you're supporting the ongoing genocide

You couldn't sink any lower if you tried spare us the crocodile tears



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May 11 2024 02:06pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 11 2024 01:56pm)
Terrible, awful and dishonest comparison.
Gaza to Ukraine?
One is a few hundred football pitches, the other is hundreds of miles of a front.


Gaza has a population density of 14,000 people per square mile
Belgorod has a population density of 150 people per square mile

Even the most surgical strikes in Gaza have collateral damage, as Hamas purposefully hides its military apparatus behind human shields.
This is an empty playground with an unoccupied parking lot in the middle of a suburban neighborhood with no targets of value anywhere nearby.

This is what truly indiscriminate shelling looks like. Not "shelling civilian targets", this is simply untargeted shelling. Its not even killing anyone or causing serious damage, because its such a wanton and pointless attack
As Xisten says, this is completely nonsensical with Ukraine's lack of shells. It doesn't even properly terrorize a civilian population like razing apartment blocks would, it just wastes ammo while endangering what, random children?

Israel has taken measures at every step of the invasion to minimize civilian casualties, open evacuation corridors, and importantly- actually degrade and defeat Hamas by systematically tearing up their infrastructure and personnel. Ukraine has been bleeding away troops in a crumbling defense and wasting armor and ammo on totally pointless operations throughout the war. At every opportunity, Ukrainians are fed into a meat grinder or waste what little supplies they have just to make a transparent PR ploy. Like landing special forces on Tenderovsky Island only to get massacred, or all the armor they wasted in the crossborder raid into Kursk. Securing no objectives, causing no serious damage, taking heavy losses. And now when Russia is starting a major offensive that will push Ukrainian artillery out of range of Belgorod, they wasted their remaining ammo firing blindly at the city and striking completely at random. Blowing up a few cars, breaking the window at a hospital.

Of course there's a double standard. US weapons are being wasted on a pointless failed proxy war just to cause minimal spiteful damage at this point. Russia is probably going to overrun the remaining Donbas and we'll have supplied the weapons to bomb a couple playgrounds before the inevitable peace deal. Israel is going to completely subjugate Gaza, with or without us, and Joe Biden's bellyaching over losing votes in Michigan just makes us look even weaker and more indecisive on the world stage, as if that was possible after this Ukraine blunder.
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May 11 2024 03:34pm
The real prize is getting within artillery range of Kharkiv and forcing Ukraine to defend a tertiary front while the Donbass fortress cities start to fall.

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May 12 2024 11:05am
Russia is advancing very fast due to the corruption in Ukraine. There supposed to be a first defensive like with minefields and other equipment around Kharkiev. There was nothing :lol: Russians went kilometers deep with two days through nonexistest defensive lines which were drawn on paper only.
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May 12 2024 11:11am
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Russia is advancing very fast due to the corruption in Ukraine. There supposed to be a first defensive like with minefields and other equipment around Kharkiev. There was nothing :lol: Russians went kilometers deep with two days through nonexistest defensive lines which were drawn on paper only.


Source ?
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May 12 2024 11:17am
Quote (babun1024 @ May 12 2024 06:05pm)
Russia is advancing very fast due to the corruption in Ukraine. There supposed to be a first defensive like with minefields and other equipment around Kharkiev. There was nothing :lol: Russians went kilometers deep with two days through nonexistest defensive lines which were drawn on paper only.


They've barely advanced for 1.5 years. A few villages is a drop in the ocean to the whole of Ukraine they tried to conquer.

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May 12 2024 11:34am
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 12 2024 07:11pm)
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Nach dem Vorstoß russischer Truppen in das ukrainische Grenzgebiet um Charkiw zeigt sich ein Kommandeur einer ukrainischen Spezialaufklärungseinheit fassungslos. Er selbst hatte im Herbst 2022 bei der ukrainischen Überraschungsoffensive in Charkiw gekämpft.

„Es gab keine erste Verteidigungslinie. Wir haben es gesehen. Die Russen sind einfach hereinspaziert. Sie sind einfach reingegangen, ohne Minenfelder“, sagte er der BBC. Dann zeigte er ein Drohnenvideo, das zeigen soll, wie russische Truppen ohne Widerstand über die Grenze marschieren.

Die ukrainischen Behörden hätten behauptet, dass teure Verteidigungsanlagen gebaut würden. Diese seien aber schlicht nicht vorhanden, so der Kommandeur. „Entweder war es ein Akt der Nachlässigkeit oder der Korruption. Es war kein Versagen. Es war ein Verrat.“

https://m.focus.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/ukraine-krieg-im-ticker-feuer-nach-drohnenangriff-in-russischer-oelraffinerie_id_57275780.html

That's not some journo, he is a commander in action.

This post was edited by babun1024 on May 12 2024 11:35am
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May 12 2024 11:41am
Quote (babun1024 @ May 12 2024 07:34pm)


Ahh sorry i need more than this shit
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May 12 2024 11:44am
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Ahh sorry i need more than this shit


Well, maybe, you're the shit if you don't believe Ukrainian commanders from the front telling what it is in a respectable pro Ukrainian newspaper.

This post was edited by babun1024 on May 12 2024 11:45am
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