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Apr 11 2022 10:56am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 11 Apr 2022 18:50)
"Russian media" would never claim anything of the sort.

The "omg they're gonna use chemical weapons" trope comes right outta the CIA "humanitarian intervention" playbook. The same stupid nonsense they tried to use to get a no fly zone over Syria.

Didn't work then, won't work now


They're openly reporting on it on the site of RIA Novosti, a state-owned Russian news agency:
https://ria.ru/20220411/azovstal-1782921876.html

It's also found here:
https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/04/11/basurin-predlozhil-brat-azovstal-khimicheskimi-voyskami.html

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Apr 11 2022 11:08am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 11 2022 11:51am)
Bellingcat is an actual propaganda outlet that receives funding directly from various governments and is connected to actual intelligence agencies.

The people I listen to are just random bloggers that are fucking pissed at what they're seeing.

They pass that rage onto me, then I pass it onto you.


Saved for posterity.

No journalistic integrity, just random bloggers. Probably funded by the Kremlin.
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Apr 11 2022 11:14am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 11 2022 10:56am)
They're openly reporting on it on the site of RIA Novosti, a state-owned Russian news agency:
https://ria.ru/20220411/azovstal-1782921876.html

It's also found here:
https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/04/11/basurin-predlozhil-brat-azovstal-khimicheskimi-voyskami.html


So they're going to use smoke or some other type of chemical grenades to flush enemy troops out of a fortified underground zone where there are no civilians, and which would be very difficult to storm by force, and which you can't flush out using artillery because it's underground.

An important distinction to make, because this is something where if the circumstances were not explained properly could cause people to think that the "evil dictator Putin" is using Sarin or some shit on a residential zone.

Not a good time to be an Azovite right now. Funny, because they could have just agreed to the humanitarian corridor and left the area freely to Kiev as it was offered to them. They refused, and now this is their fate..
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Apr 11 2022 11:15am
Quote (Santara @ Apr 11 2022 11:08am)
Saved for posterity.

No journalistic integrity, just random bloggers. Probably funded by the Kremlin.


Those "random bloggers" have 10 trillion times the integrity of shameless propagandists like Elliot Higgins, who quite frankly deserves to be placed in a mental institution.

But I know you would prefer the comfortable propaganda versus some good hard truth any day of the week.
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Apr 11 2022 11:17am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Apr 2022 19:41)
Russian media is now reporting that separatists from the Donbass are preparing the use of chemical weapons/phosphor to burn out the last remaining Ukrainian troops in Mariupol who retreated to an entrenched position in a steel factory...


Entrenched? You have no clue what Azovsteel factory really is.
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Apr 11 2022 11:27am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 11 2022 12:56pm)
They're openly reporting on it on the site of RIA Novosti, a state-owned Russian news agency:
https://ria.ru/20220411/azovstal-1782921876.html

It's also found here:
https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/04/11/basurin-predlozhil-brat-azovstal-khimicheskimi-voyskami.html


Interesting. So the guy is saying there is approximately 3-4k Azov battalion volunteers in this specific building (I think this is Azov battalion HQ). I guess the building has significant underground infrastructure so trying to take it would be very costly, so he's proposing using chemical ways of getting to them.

Here's some pic of what this factory actually looks like from the outside... It's massive.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Azovstal-Iron-Steel-Works-Mariupol-Ukraine_fig1_321637402

This is like some real life Escape from Tarkov vibes

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 11 2022 11:35am
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Apr 11 2022 11:28am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 11 2022 12:15pm)
Those "random bloggers" have 10 trillion times the integrity of shameless propagandists like Elliot Higgins, who quite frankly deserves to be placed in a mental institution.

But I know you would prefer the comfortable propaganda versus some good hard truth any day of the week.


Sure they do. Uh huh. I totally believe you.
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Apr 11 2022 11:40am
Quote (chopdickz777 @ Apr 10 2022 11:43pm)
Proud of your own bigoted hatred towards an entire mass of tens of millions of people because the media said they were bad.

Interesting.


You don't understand what I'm saying, do you Ivan? English is clearly not your first language

Quote (ferdia @ Apr 11 2022 11:51am)
we have the FIT expression in ireland as well.

There is no victory for Russia here. They are Persians at thermopylae.


Actually, the Persians won at Thermoplyae and it was a defeat for King Leonidas
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Apr 11 2022 11:48am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 11 2022 05:27pm)
Interesting. So the guy is saying there is approximately 3-4k Azov battalion volunteers in this specific building (I think this is Azov battalion HQ). I guess the building has significant underground infrastructure so trying to take it would be very costly, so he's proposing using chemical ways of getting to them.

Here's some pic of what this factory actually looks like from the outside... It's massive.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Azovstal-Iron-Steel-Works-Mariupol-Ukraine_fig1_321637402

This is like some real life Escape from Tarkov vibes


mark my words, they will make a cod map of this
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Apr 11 2022 11:53am
Quote (dro94 @ Apr 11 2022 12:40pm)
Actually, the Persians won at Thermoplyae and it was a defeat for King Leonidas


Tactical loss, strategic victory.
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