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Jul 15 2020 07:00pm
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What's funny is that the evidence basically shows that there was collusion. The only defense the cult has is that Roger Stone and the Trump campaign didn't know Wikileaks and others were backed by Russians or supplied with information gained by Russians. It's a "they were too stupid to collude" defense.

In reality, Stone, Trump, and others probably considered it likely that the information was hacked by Russia. They just didn't care.

It wasn't some nuanced conspiracy... but it's not a stretch for Adam Schiff to say that the campaign colluded with Russia.


You toss "cultist" around like Scaly tosses "fascist". Mueller did not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign actively "colluded", despite that being a poor word, with Russia. Accepting that is just accepting the readily available facts. One can disagree with or find Trump abhorrent on any number of other levels and not believe that the campaign actively coordinated electoral fraud with a foreign power.

It's time to move past denial and accept that you were suckered into a false narrative for years. The walls didn't close in. It's over.
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Jul 15 2020 07:02pm
ITT: Drink my koolaid or I'll call you a cultist.
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Jul 15 2020 07:07pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 15 2020 09:00pm)
You toss "cultist" around like Scaly tosses "fascist". Mueller did not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign actively "colluded", despite that being a poor word, with Russia. Accepting that is just accepting the readily available facts. One can disagree with or find Trump abhorrent on any number of other levels and not believe that the campaign actively coordinated electoral fraud with a foreign power.

It's time to move past denial and accept that you were suckered into a false narrative for years. The walls didn't close in. It's over.


You used to be pretty honest.

Unless you're buying into the "they were too stupid to realize it" defense.

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Jul 15 2020 07:18pm
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You used to be pretty honest.

Unless you're buying into the "they were too stupid to realize it" defense.


What do you think constitutes "collusion" with Russia, and what evidence do you think supports that?
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Jul 15 2020 07:25pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 15 2020 08:00pm)
You toss "cultist" around like Scaly tosses "fascist". Mueller did not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign actively "colluded", despite that being a poor word, with Russia. Accepting that is just accepting the readily available facts. One can disagree with or find Trump abhorrent on any number of other levels and not believe that the campaign actively coordinated electoral fraud with a foreign power.

It's time to move past denial and accept that you were suckered into a false narrative for years. The walls didn't close in. It's over.


It wouldn't matter if Mueller found recordings of Trump saying "Yes I'm colluding with you". The framework he outlined in the report only allowed for "not guilty" or "give evidence to congress and let them figure it out".

What he did find that is beyond dispute is attempts by Trump to collude that were only thwarted by either incompetence or refusal by those who received the orders. Additionally the circumstances surrounding Stone suggest Trump likely perjured himself in his responses to Mueller.... so there's also that.

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Jul 15 2020 07:55pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 15 Jul 2020 21:18)
What do you think constitutes "collusion" with Russia, and what evidence do you think supports that?

>people shitposting on the facebook and the shitposting actions of the 400 pound hacker known as 4chan = ‘russia’ hacking the election (and Pres Obama let it happen)

this is the “reality” based on the fantasy of anti-American election-deniers

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Jul 15 2020 08:49pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 15 2020 08:18pm)
What do you think constitutes "collusion" with Russia, and what evidence do you think supports that?


I know what definition of "collusion" Adam Schiff was selling to mouth-foaming liberal cultists.
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Jul 16 2020 08:54am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 15 2020 09:00pm)
You toss "cultist" around like Scaly tosses "fascist". Mueller did not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign actively "colluded", despite that being a poor word, with Russia. Accepting that is just accepting the readily available facts. One can disagree with or find Trump abhorrent on any number of other levels and not believe that the campaign actively coordinated electoral fraud with a foreign power.

It's time to move past denial and accept that you were suckered into a false narrative for years. The walls didn't close in. It's over.


Unfortunately "cult" is an accurate description of Trump's support.

Charging someone with conspiracy =/= making a plausible claim that someone coordinated or colluded with an entity backed by Russia. You haven't really rebutted my comments.
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Jul 16 2020 09:45am
oh now it’s “coordinated with an entity that could be ‘backed’ by russia”. lmao!!! in due time it will be “existed in the same timeframe and on the same planet as russia” :lol:

This post was edited by excellence on Jul 16 2020 09:46am
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Jul 16 2020 10:18am
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oh now it’s “coordinated with an entity that could be ‘backed’ by russia”. lmao!!! in due time it will be “existed in the same timeframe and on the same planet as russia” :lol:


There's no "could be". Wikileaks leaked information they obtained from Russian agents.
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