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Apr 17 2024 11:19pm
Since we are entering new and uncharted territory in 2024, here is a fun debate:

“Is Russia allowed to bomb embassies of countries waging a proxy war against Russia?”

David Cameron says yes. What does PARD say?
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Apr 17 2024 11:40pm
Quote (Malopox @ Apr 18 2024 02:19am)
Since we are entering new and uncharted territory in 2024, here is a fun debate:

“Is Russia allowed to bomb embassies of countries waging a proxy war against Russia?”

David Cameron says yes. What does PARD say?

Get the Canadians first, they are not to be trusted
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Apr 18 2024 12:24am
Quote (Malopox @ 18 Apr 2024 07:19)
Since we are entering new and uncharted territory in 2024, here is a fun debate:

“Is Russia allowed to bomb embassies of countries waging a proxy war against Russia?”

David Cameron says yes. What does PARD say?


afaik Israels attack and Irans response were both contrary to international law

So to answer your question, no russia is not allowed.
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Apr 18 2024 12:39am
Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Apr 18 2024 08:24am)
afaik Israels attack and Irans response were both contrary to international law

So to answer your question, no russia is not allowed.


Western heads would explode if Russia bombed another countries embassy, another 10.000 sanctions would be issued and what have you

Has Israel faced any consequences yet? LMK
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Apr 18 2024 12:56am
Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Apr 18 2024 03:24am)
afaik Israels attack and Irans response were both contrary to international law

So to answer your question, no russia is not allowed.

I'm not well versed in these things but wouldn't Iran's response fall under UN Charter article 51? They targeted the airfields that would have been used to carry out the strike AFAIK which could be construed as a defensive measure against further attack. It would be a disingenuous interpretation of what constitutes defense IMO but I don't think it would be at odds with the popular usage of the term.
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Apr 18 2024 01:33am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 18 Apr 2024 08:56)
I'm not well versed in these things but wouldn't Iran's response fall under UN Charter article 51? They targeted the airfields that would have been used to carry out the strike AFAIK which could be construed as a defensive measure against further attack. It would be a disingenuous interpretation of what constitutes defense IMO but I don't think it would be at odds with the popular usage of the term.


I can only quote experts, but from what i understand the timeframe is a problem and also that alot of attacks are performed by proxies which are not regulated well and the timeframe.

https://www.justsecurity.org/94635/iran-israel-hostilities/

"....main problem with Iran’s Article 51 argument here is that its response took place two weeks after the attack to which it was allegedly responding, and was repeatedly phrased by Iran’s leaders as an act of punishment or retaliation. This makes it a prohibited forcible reprisal rather than a defensive action....."

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I can only quote experts, but from what i understand the timeframe is a problem and also that alot of attacks are performed by proxies which are not regulated well and the timeframe.

https://www.justsecurity.org/94635/iran-israel-hostilities/

"....main problem with Iran’s Article 51 argument here is that its response took place two weeks after the attack to which it was allegedly responding, and was repeatedly phrased by Iran’s leaders as an act of punishment or retaliation. This makes it a prohibited forcible reprisal rather than a defensive action....."

Ah okay fair enough, thank you.
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Quote (zorzin @ Apr 18 2024 02:34am)
Ya I believe that even the most disillusioned nato enthusiast is starting to realize that getting into a war of attrition against Russia was a very stupid mistake. Luckily for the average westerner however, only ukranians are paying the price for natos expansionist goals and the rest of us can continue to send thoughts and prayers as they get FAB'd into oblivion


no, they are still delusional. you cant attribute common sense without evidence.
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Apr 18 2024 02:32am
Quote (Malopox @ Apr 18 2024 06:19am)
Since we are entering new and uncharted territory in 2024, here is a fun debate:

“Is Russia allowed to bomb embassies of countries waging a proxy war against Russia?”

David Cameron says yes. What does PARD say?


where did he say that ?

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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 18 2024 05:32am)
where did he say that ?

Probably referring to this interview, I think there is some room for interpretation but IMO that was the implication, at the very least he downplays the significance of it quite heavily.
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