Civilians?

This post was edited by Djunior on Apr 17 2024 01:14pm

In democratic Ukraine, data on military losses cannot be disseminated.

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 17 2024 01:31pm

There are hundreds of thousands of displaced Ukrainians whose homes were destroyed during this war, they must surely struggle to provide all of them with a roof, don't they? So it seems perfectly plausible that they house them in hotels and put bunk beds in there to increase the occupancy rate they can squeeze out per room.

And force them to wear camo so they could merge into the surroundings. Got ya.

Ukraine is heading for defeat
The West's failure to send weapons to Kyiv is helping Putin win his war:

It’s not just that Ukraine’s forces are running out of ammunition. Western delays over sending aid mean the country is dangerously short of something even harder to supply than shells: the fighting spirit required to win.

Zelenskyy has laid out the stakes even more starkly, saying Ukraine “will lose the war” if the U.S. Congress does not step up and supply aid.
Increasingly it looks as if Putin’s bet that he can grind down Ukrainian resistance and Western support might pay off.

Right now, Ukraine’s most urgent need is for artillery shells — millions of them. Moreover, Ukraine says it needs at least two dozen Patriot air-defense systems to protect troops on the front lines
In Zelenskyy’s presidential office in Bankova Street, his officials insist they are still positive. But that Western aid, especially President Joe Biden’s long-delayed $60 billion package of support, can’t wait much longer

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/

Where in your picture do you see camo in the rubble?

Yall enlisted and just posting here on the sidelines or?

These are never ending commitments. There is no "ok if this happens, we're going to win now" it's just continual month after month, year after year. You supply them with Patriots, then you are committing (even if not explicitly) to provide them with ongoing ammo as it's depleted, a month, 6 months, a year and so on.

Average American should not be fooled. Iraq and Aghanistan are prime examples of 'just a little more', that ballooned into decade+ old wars and saddled the taxpayer with trillions.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 17 2024 06:14pm

Ya I believe that even the most disillusioned nato enthusiast is starting to realize that getting into a war of attrition against Russia was a very stupid mistake. Luckily for the average westerner however, only ukranians are paying the price for natos expansionist goals and the rest of us can continue to send thoughts and prayers as they get FAB'd into oblivion

May be there. I don't know.

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 17 2024 07:35pm