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Apr 11 2022 05:16am
Quote (ferdia @ 11 Apr 2022 18:12)
The mad thing is there is so much information out there over the last 5 years, thats freely available in the public domain, which has highlighted the Ukraine weapons buildup and preparation for this conflict. its like they (Russia) were living in a deluded world or living under a rock while all this was going on. mental.

Completely rubbish as compared to American planning and intelligence

caveat: when i say intelligence i mean intelligence gathering, i dont mean intelligence to have a positive foreign policy, which i dont believe America has.



1. Provided its not troops on the ground its not seen as being dirty by the western world. Rather this is how America has always operated.
2. If you remove the words "Due to Ukraine and Russia conflict" or if you change it to "due to the american strategic success over Russia" i will agree with everything else you said.
3. Yes. western media has repeated intimated that China will invade Taiwan shortly. I already commented on this before. China Taiwan is not the same scenario as Russia Ukraine, but Taiwan is getting alot of foreign aid. China would need to be afraid of Taiwan to definitely do anything (i.e. its up to America if they are able to do that or not). While China might still invade it does not make sense to do that. make no mistake China actively dislikes Taiwan and sees Taiwan as an opponent, and is doing alot of scary things re: Taiwan. its not the media which is scaring people, but rather what is happening and subsequently being reported in the media, which is scaring people.

again i am no expert, i think it would be very stupid for china to take a risk on taiwan when everything else they are doing to make them supreme is working.


2. I will Re Phrase it to America's strategic success over Russia.

3. You are right that China will not invade Taiwan, but I feel that we really need to see what is happening in Russia. This might be a weird thought but maybe you can try to give me your inputs.
If Russia successfully takes over or in some ways score a victory in Ukraine, I don't think China will make a move on Taiwan.
If Russia loses................China might make a move on Taiwan....

I am trying to think of a way to explain to you on the above. But please comment on it because I would like you to see if I make sense in a very weird way.
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Apr 11 2022 05:24am
Quote (dro94 @ 11 Apr 2022 01:01)
As an anglo saxon, I can proudly say I am very racist towards Russians. But not their birds. Their birds are fit


Sorry for the offtopic, but this has to be the single most British sentence I've read in this sub in well over a year! :rofl:

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Regarding Taiwan: I think the CCP is looking very closely at the Western reaction to Russia's war in Ukraine, which kinds of sanctions or material support they can unleash, how effective it is, and so on. Imho, the more determination and power the West is showing and the worse the whole thing goes for Russia, the less likely a Chinese invasion of Taiwan becomes, at least for the time being.
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Apr 11 2022 05:27am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 11 2022 07:16am)
2. I will Re Phrase it to America's strategic success over Russia.

3. You are right that China will not invade Taiwan, but I feel that we really need to see what is happening in Russia. This might be a weird thought but maybe you can try to give me your inputs.
If Russia successfully takes over or in some ways score a victory in Ukraine, I don't think China will make a move on Taiwan.
If Russia loses................China might make a move on Taiwan....

I am trying to think of a way to explain to you on the above. But please comment on it because I would like you to see if I make sense in a very weird way.


Bolded is ass backward.
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Apr 11 2022 05:28am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Apr 2022 19:24)
Sorry for the offtopic, but this has to be the single most British sentence I've read in this sub in well over a year! :rofl:

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Regarding Taiwan: I think the CCP is looking very closely at the Western reaction to Russia's war in Ukraine, which kinds of sanctions or material support they can unleash, how effective it is, and so on. Imho, the more determination and power the West is showing and the worse the whole thing goes for Russia, the less likely a Chinese invasion of Taiwan becomes, at least for the time being.


I haven't heard the phrase " That bird is fit" before when i was still residing in Singapore.
i was introduced to that particular term when I started working in Hong Kong and was mixing with my British Chinese and British friends.
:lol:
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Apr 11 2022 05:28am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 11 2022 12:16pm)
2. I will Re Phrase it to America's strategic success over Russia.

3. You are right that China will not invade Taiwan, but I feel that we really need to see what is happening in Russia. This might be a weird thought but maybe you can try to give me your inputs.
If Russia successfully takes over or in some ways score a victory in Ukraine, I don't think China will make a move on Taiwan.
If Russia loses................China might make a move on Taiwan....

I am trying to think of a way to explain to you on the above. But please comment on it because I would like you to see if I make sense in a very weird way.


Russia in no way shape or form can get a victory in Ukraine. They have already lost. By this I mean they are now ostracized from the international community and this will not change regardless of any military or treaty victory with Ukraine (or not). i.e. a phyrric victory.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 11 2022 05:29am
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Apr 11 2022 05:29am
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Russia in no way shape or form can get a victory in Ukraine. They have already lost. By this I mean they are now ostracized from the international community and this will not change regardless of any military or treaty victory with Ukraine (or not).


I feel if suddenly Putin die of illness or being Epstien. China will be gone sooner or later . :baby:
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Apr 11 2022 05:30am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 11 2022 12:29pm)
I feel if suddenly Putin die of illness or being Epstien. China will be gone sooner or later . :baby:


No. they have nuclear weapons (therefore cannot be attacked) and they have the best comparable foundation / building block in the world (as outlined previously in this thread, reread if you had not seen what i said in this regard). As previously commented America needs to cross its fingers and toe's that the next chinese ruler is a complete brain dead retard. thats the only way china's inexorable path to supremacy will be derailed. China needs long term leader(s) in office that will continue with china's 1/2 century plan. I say continue rather then finnish as aiming for #1 is a journey, not a destination. In this regard their form of government is ideal to obtain this( i.e. step over anyone that disagrees/no red tape).

America would 100% win the propaganda war against china but it is running out of time to do such a war. america has been quite tame as related to china, probably an element of fear already. I personally think its already too late. America would need to have the same level of power over china as america currently has over russia on the international stage, but I dont see a path to that.

for sure they can talk about human rights abuses or how china is a baddy but that wont really get them anywhere i feel. they need a major event to create a major shift. and its precisely for that reason that i dont think china will invade taiwan.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 11 2022 05:45am
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Apr 11 2022 05:36am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 11 2022 06:16am)
2. I will Re Phrase it to America's strategic success over Russia.

3. You are right that China will not invade Taiwan, but I feel that we really need to see what is happening in Russia. This might be a weird thought but maybe you can try to give me your inputs.
If Russia successfully takes over or in some ways score a victory in Ukraine, I don't think China will make a move on Taiwan.
If Russia loses................China might make a move on Taiwan....

I am trying to think of a way to explain to you on the above. But please comment on it because I would like you to see if I make sense in a very weird way.


3 doesn't make sense to me. If Russia scores a victory, it establishes that for all their might, the West couldn't stop Russia. This would be taken as a sign of weakness, and raise the odds that China would feel safe in proceeding with an invasion.
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Apr 11 2022 05:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 11 2022 06:24am)
Sorry for the offtopic, but this has to be the single most British sentence I've read in this sub in well over a year!


Russian mail-order brides are supposedly popular here in the states.
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Apr 11 2022 05:51am
Quote (Santara @ Apr 11 2022 12:44pm)
Russian mail-order brides are supposedly popular here in the states.


we have the FIT expression in ireland as well.

There is no victory for Russia here. They are Persians at thermopylae.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 11 2022 06:00am
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