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Jul 11 2020 09:47am
Quote (IceMage @ 11 Jul 2020 11:10)
https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1281937795616067586



The only Republican with integrity left is correct.

https://mobile.twitter.com/catturd2/status/1280173003834298369


mittens rmoney the ultimate carpetbagging grifter failed presidential candidate (who abuses his dog and insults half the electorate) has zero integrity and no say in anything of relevance or importance
Quote (EndlessSky @ 11 Jul 2020 08:16)
You losers are still running around screaming muh russia.

You peeps are hopeless.

yeah the conspiracy theories are back in full force lol. still blaming ‘russia’ “for hacking the election” under Obama’s administration and somehow Mueller was unable to find this for sure despite the “dossier” without the only person ‘who knew this for a fact confessing as such’: Roger Stone

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Jul 11 2020 09:59am
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 11 2020 08:10am)
https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1281937795616067586



The only Republican with integrity left is correct.


ghot could be just as factually correct living with no information on Greenland for 5 years
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Jul 11 2020 05:54pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/mueller-stone-oped/

Robert Mueller penned an op-ed for WaPo
He didn't say any new facts, there's nothing in the way of information to be had. All it really is, is Mueller declaring himself and his investigators to be infallible agents without bias who are completely above reproach and to denounce any suggestion of investigative or prosecutorial misconduct. You know, despite all that stuff we've got the receipts for. Despite all the overreach, despite the suppressed exculpatory evidence and numerous people removed from his team for their overt bias, despite finding proof that the entire investigation was a politically motivated farce that was looking into innocent people who had nothing to do with Russia.
Robert Mueller and James Comey are both proving to be case studies in hubris, in men who so thoroughly believe in their own humility and integrity that they can't see their feet for the shit they're standing in. A self-actualizing Robert Mueller from another dimension might have the actual humility to acknowledge that prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of counterintelligence for political gain, the bias inherent to politicized investigation and the entire circus act of a high profile investigation into a nothingburger- all pose more threat to the fabric of our democracy than whether a non-material witness misleads investigators about something irrelevant. Confronted with all the failings of his team's flop and coming just after Andrew Weissman's overt persecutory call to arms yesterday, Robert Mueller can see no wrong in any man but Roger Stone- and Trump without naming him, of course. A Robert Mueller with actual integrity might have penned an op-ed about how the politicization of the investigation distracted from the geopolitical tussle with Russia and sideshows like pursuing Roger Stone were counterproductive towards our national security. A Robert Mueller who could see his own feet might take a cue and exeunt stage left.
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Jul 11 2020 05:56pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 11 2020 04:54pm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/mueller-stone-oped/

Robert Mueller penned an op-ed for WaPo
He didn't say any new facts, there's nothing in the way of information to be had. All it really is, is Mueller declaring himself and his investigators to be infallible agents without bias who are completely above reproach and to denounce any suggestion of investigative or prosecutorial misconduct. You know, despite all that stuff we've got the receipts for. Despite all the overreach, despite the suppressed exculpatory evidence and numerous people removed from his team for their overt bias, despite finding proof that the entire investigation was a politically motivated farce that was looking into innocent people who had nothing to do with Russia.
Robert Mueller and James Comey are both proving to be case studies in hubris, in men who so thoroughly believe in their own humility and integrity that they can't see their feet for the shit they're standing in. A self-actualizing Robert Mueller from another dimension might have the actual humility to acknowledge that prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of counterintelligence for political gain, the bias inherent to politicized investigation and the entire circus act of a high profile investigation into a nothingburger- all pose more threat to the fabric of our democracy than whether a non-material witness misleads investigators about something irrelevant. Confronted with all the failings of his team's flop and coming just after Andrew Weissman's overt persecutory call to arms yesterday, Robert Mueller can see no wrong in any man but Roger Stone- and Trump without naming him, of course. A Robert Mueller with actual integrity might have penned an op-ed about how the politicization of the investigation distracted from the geopolitical tussle with Russia and sideshows like pursuing Roger Stone were counterproductive towards our national security. A Robert Mueller who could see his own feet might take a cue and exeunt stage left.


Wow, tell us how you really feel LMAO
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Jul 11 2020 06:36pm
Here is the article Goomshill has substantial problems with:

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The work of the special counsel’s office — its report, indictments, guilty pleas and convictions — should speak for itself. But I feel compelled to respond both to broad claims that our investigation was illegitimate and our motives were improper, and to specific claims that Roger Stone was a victim of our office. The Russia investigation was of paramount importance. Stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so.

Russia’s actions were a threat to America’s democracy. It was critical that they be investigated and understood. By late 2016, the FBI had evidence that the Russians had signaled to a Trump campaign adviser that they could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to the Democratic candidate. And the FBI knew that the Russians had done just that: Beginning in July 2016, WikiLeaks released emails stolen by Russian military intelligence officers from the Clinton campaign. Other online personas using false names — fronts for Russian military intelligence — also released Clinton campaign emails.


Following FBI Director James B. Comey’s termination in May 2017, the acting attorney general named me as special counsel and directed the special counsel’s office to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. The order specified lines of investigation for us to pursue, including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign. One of our cases involved Stone, an official on the campaign until mid-2015 and a supporter of the campaign throughout 2016. Stone became a central figure in our investigation for two key reasons: He communicated in 2016 with individuals known to us to be Russian intelligence officers, and he claimed advance knowledge of WikiLeaks’ release of emails stolen by those Russian intelligence officers.

Opinion | The Mueller report is riddled with Trump's lies and manipulation
In 2019, The Post's editorial board argued the president tried to manipulate the justice system, wrongdoing that Congress must not let go. (The Washington Post)
We now have a detailed picture of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. The special counsel’s office identified two principal operations directed at our election: hacking and dumping Clinton campaign emails, and an online social media campaign to disparage the Democratic candidate. We also identified numerous links between the Russian government and Trump campaign personnel — Stone among them. We did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government in its activities. The investigation did, however, establish that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome. It also established that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.

Uncovering and tracing Russian outreach and interference activities was a complex task. The investigation to understand these activities took two years and substantial effort. Based on our work, eight individuals pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, and more than two dozen Russian individuals and entities, including senior Russian intelligence officers, were charged with federal crimes.

Congress also investigated and sought information from Stone. A jury later determined he lied repeatedly to members of Congress. He lied about the identity of his intermediary to WikiLeaks. He lied about the existence of written communications with his intermediary. He lied by denying he had communicated with the Trump campaign about the timing of WikiLeaks’ releases. He in fact updated senior campaign officials repeatedly about WikiLeaks. And he tampered with a witness, imploring him to stonewall Congress.


The jury ultimately convicted Stone of obstruction of a congressional investigation, five counts of making false statements to Congress and tampering with a witness. Because his sentence has been commuted, he will not go to prison. But his conviction stands.

Russian efforts to interfere in our political system, and the essential question of whether those efforts involved the Trump campaign, required investigation. In that investigation, it was critical for us (and, before us, the FBI) to obtain full and accurate information. Likewise, it was critical for Congress to obtain accurate information from its witnesses. When a subject lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of the government’s efforts to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable. It may ultimately impede those efforts.

We made every decision in Stone’s case, as in all our cases, based solely on the facts and the law and in accordance with the rule of law. The women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity. Claims to the contrary are false.


This post was edited by thundercock on Jul 11 2020 06:36pm
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Jul 11 2020 07:35pm
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Here is the article Goomshill has substantial problems with:

so now some things are in his purview or they still aren’t?
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Jul 13 2020 07:24am
Quote (fender @ Jul 13 2020 01:09am)


golf fast?? is this a new "thing" claim he does it fast therefore it ISN'T OBAMA
LOL what fucking idiot would fall for this.
wait.........
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Jul 13 2020 09:29am
A lot of Obama lovers in here upset that Trump is a better golfer.

Just another reason he is a better president.
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