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the ukranian nazis have to be stopped, these scumbags are willing to cause another chernobyl

unbelievable this trash
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 9 Apr 2024 00:33)
And vice versa. That’s why drones are the new weapon of choice while big bulky hardware is more vulnerable than ever. I’ve said this a few times now, our big bulky navy is pretty vulnerable now, and the future of warfare is for sure not these huge billion dollar vessels. Sure we got good AA that can pick off these flying lawnmowers, just as we’re doing in Red Sea now but it’s really expensive and if an enemy would send a swarm of these, they could exhaust a ships defense.


Phalanax shoots tungsten bullets is verry cheap.
Those lawnmoers cant get close
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Quote (Many_Names @ Apr 8 2024 05:38pm)
Phalanax shoots tungsten bullets is verry cheap.
Those lawnmoers cant get close


I don’t really think we’ve seen the final form of what drone warfare looks like. In the future I think we’re going to see swarms of these, maybe a few hundred at a time with decoys, etc that will make it increasingly difficult to nip all. They’re also getting cheaper and cheaper.

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Quote (Many_Names @ Apr 8 2024 11:38pm)
Phalanax shoots tungsten bullets is verry cheap.
Those lawnmoers cant get close


Ships are super vulnerable. There is lawnmowers in the sea also.

If taiwan wasn´t defended by the ocean, it would´ve been taken in 6 hours.

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 8 Apr 2024 23:37)
the ukranian nazis have to be stopped, these scumbags are willing to cause another chernobyl

unbelievable this trash

Which motivation would the Ukrainian government have for causing a nuclear calamity right in the middle of their own country?



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Ships are super vulnerable. There is lawnmowers in the sea also.

If taiwan wasn´t defended by the ocean, it would´ve been taken in 6 hours.

If Taiwan wasn't defended by the ocean, it would've already been taken all the way back in 1949. ;)

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Quote (ofthevoid @ 8 Apr 2024 23:33)
And vice versa. That’s why drones are the new weapon of choice while big bulky hardware is more vulnerable than ever. I’ve said this a few times now, our big bulky navy is pretty vulnerable now, and the future of warfare is for sure not these huge billion dollar vessels. Sure we got good AA that can pick off these flying lawnmowers, just as we’re doing in Red Sea now but it’s really expensive and if an enemy would send a swarm of these, they could exhaust a ships defense.


Quote (Many_Names @ 8 Apr 2024 23:38)
Phalanax shoots tungsten bullets is verry cheap.
Those lawnmoers cant get close


Quote (ofthevoid @ 8 Apr 2024 23:46)
I don’t really think we’ve seen the final form of what drone warfare looks like. In the future I think we’re going to see swarms of these, maybe a few hundred at a time with decoys, etc that will make it increasingly difficult to nip all. They’re also getting cheaper and cheaper.



Imho, there will be new forms of drone defense, some AoE stuff. For example, I could think of a vacuum bomb which sucks the air out of a whole region so that the drone motors can't keep them in the air and a whole swarm of drones just crashes down at once. At which point drone swarms will get accompanied by "guardian drones" which try to pick up the vacuum bomb before it has a chance to detonate in the middle of the swarm. Which then means that the defenders will start shooting multiple vacuum bombs at once to overwhelm the guardian drones, or get accompanied by their own "enforcer drones", etc. pp.

Fun times ahead. :)

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 9 2024 12:12am)
Which motivation would the Ukrainian government have for causing a nuclear calamity right in the middle of their own country?




If Taiwan wasn't defended by the ocean, it would've already been taken all the way back in 1949. ;)


Are you comparing china of 1949 to 2022?

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Quote (ownyaah @ 9 Apr 2024 00:19)
are you comparing china of 1949 to 2022?


No, but the Kuonmintang was beaten decisively by the CCP in mainland China; there is no reason whatsoever to think they could have held on in Taiwan in spite of being ridiculously outnumbered if it hadn't been for the huge "moat" that protected them. China was a war-ravaged, piss-poor, underdeveloped shithole back then, they had neither the resources nor the technology to carry out a complex operation like an amphibious invasion.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 9 2024 12:23am)
No, but the Kuonmintang was beaten decisively by the CCP in mainland China; there is no reason whatsoever to think they could have held on in Taiwan in spite of being ridiculously outnumbered if it hadn't been for the huge "moat" that protected them. China was a war-ravaged, piss-poor, underdeveloped shithole back then, they had neither the resources nor the technology to carry out a complex operation like an amphibious invasion.


Agree completely. But it feels like china should´ve taken taiwan circa 2010s?

The longer they wait, it seems like capabilities are developing in a way where amphibious operations seem more risky and less likely to work

I used to think taiwan would taken diplomatically over time, but it seems less and less likely

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Quote (ownyaah @ 9 Apr 2024 06:28)
Agree completely. But it feels like china should´ve taken taiwan circa 2010s?

The longer they wait, it seems like capabilities are developing in a way where amphibious operations seem more risky and less likely to work

I used to think taiwan would taken diplomatically over time, but it seems less and less likely


I think...if Mao can make policies and starve 60 million to death well of course some people will say he killed 60 million or more.
I don't think the 24 million Taiwanese or less if war breaks out because most will flee will mean anything.

If you have 20 Million dead.........you can just walk in. And get the tier 4 to 5 poor villagers in China to clear booby traps and mines after.
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