This crosses over from misinformation into straight up lies.

We expected that if everybody masked and sanitized we would flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. We didn't see nearly enough masking and sanitization. We never expected it to end.

lack of masks and hand sanitizers are what caused pandemic to go from 2 weeks to 2 years?
yeah alright. god damn bat market and conspiracy theories based on lies such as mandatory masks, covid passports and vaccinations. straight up bullshit

Nobody said it would be over in 2 weeks. That is a straight up lie. You are telling a lie that you know is a lie.

You're misinterpreting what the "less effective" statement is referring to. It was made in the context of a comparison of the vaccine protection against the Delta variant with that against the Alpha variant. The Pfizer vaccine is less effective against the Delta variant than against the Alpha variant. So are AZ and Moderna! However, the dropoff in efficacy against Delta, when compared with Alpha, is much smaller in the categories "protection against hospitalization and death" than in the category "prevent symptomatic infection".

yea I already clarified that for him 1x.. he's just being dishonest with that statement at this point.

It's still a fact that the whole rhetoric around "flatten the curve" made it seem as if the timeline until the end of restrictions would be something like 4-8 weeks, rather than 68++ weeks that have passed since the first lockdowns in New York.

In a March 20th, 2020 interview, Fauci himself responded to a question about how long the lockdown and the restrictions would have to continue with "at least several more weeks". While not a definitive number, this phrasing clearly suggests that Fauci was thinking about a number smaller than a dozen or so.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fauci-predicts-americans-will-likely-need-stay-home-least-several-n1164701


Note that other public health experts had, at that point in time, already been settled on the idea that societies would need to suppress (and not just flatten) case numbers for the 12-18 months they expected it to take until vaccines or effective treatments. So those prominent experts, like Fauci, who gave the people the impression that the timeline for restrictions would only be very limited, were knowingly misleading the public - presumably to lull the people into "lockdown culture" and avoid an outcry or a refusal to comply.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 19 2021 03:09pm

I don't know why anyone thinks the "flatten the curve" was anything but a PC way to say that they needed make sure the ICU's and morgue's could keep up until more was known about the virus.
the only thing really known at that point was not being near anybody stopped spreading.

https://twitter.com/NewsForAllUK/status/1417229903141867523?s=19

british police ignores migrant rape gangs for decades, but thank god they are dragging dangerous vaccination passport protesters over the tarmac

That's just not true. Four days prior to the aforementioned Fauci interview, Neil Ferguson from Imperial College London had published his infamous paper in which he discussed mitigation ("flatten the curve") vs suppression (lockdown) strategies:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

The key conclusions he drew were the following:


And a few paragraphs earlier, he wrote:



This paper made huge winds and was widely discussed by public health experts and government advisors all around the world. Fauci must have been aware of it when he gave this interview, yet he chose words which quite clearly suggested that people would only need to hang on for a relatively manageable period of time until restrictions end.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 19 2021 04:24pm

Assuming an adequate and robust response, which most countries did not have.