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Apr 4 2024 12:58pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 4 2024 08:56pm)
Yanukovych went against the previously agreed deal for closer ties with Europe. Agreed by a majority of Ukrainian MP's.

He went full dictator and Ukrainians called his bluff.

Couldn't be anymore obviously a Russian stooge. And where is he now?
Fled like a bitch

You live in an alternate reality of propaganda. I pity your very existence.


They could have done a vote on it, like many other nations have done for pressing issues.

Instead western ukraine decided to impose on eastern and south ukraine through an undemocratic coup backed by Eu/US (nuland leaks)
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Apr 4 2024 12:59pm
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Lies


If your gonna disagree with any of these historical facts i dont see why anyone should have any sort of discussion with you, you are engaging in falsifying history.

What i posted in bold, is documented by thousands if not hundreds of thousands of sources

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Apr 4 2024 01:01pm
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Lies

It was no more a "western" coup than Russias "election" was legitimate.


by western ukraine, i literally meant "west-ukraine"
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Apr 4 2024 01:07pm
Just wanted to remind our NAFO friends in this thread about Solomon Islands incident in April 2022:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/26/us-wont-rule-out-military-action-if-china-establishes-base-in-solomon-islands

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One of the most senior US officials in the Pacific has refused to rule out military action against Solomon Islands if it were to allow China to establish a military base there, saying that the security deal between the countries presented “potential regional security implications” for the US and other allies.


Yet Russian “potential regional security implications” were continuously dismissed for decades “cuz muh democracieeeeh”.
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Apr 4 2024 01:14pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Apr 4 2024 08:56pm)
These are indisputable facts


"facts" like:

Like denazifying Zelensky
Bucha massacre was staged.
Secret US biolabs
Ukraine paid for terror attack

etc etc
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Apr 4 2024 01:23pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 09:14pm)
"facts" like:

Like denazifying Zelensky
Bucha massacre was staged.
Secret US biolabs
Ukraine paid for terror attack

etc etc


https://www.ghu-paris.fr/fr/ou-consulter
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Apr 4 2024 01:29pm
Escalation bros...our time is finally here!

NATO creates ‘joint mission’ in Ukraine – Poland

NATO countries have created a joint mission in Ukraine in order to expand the scope of support the US-led bloc can provide to Kiev, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski announced on Thursday.

Speaking to journalists following a meeting to commemorate the 75th anniversary of NATO, Sikorski declared that the bloc has decided to create a new “mission.” He stressed, however, that “this does not mean that we are going to war, but it does mean that we will now be able to use the coordination, training, planning capabilities of NATO to support Ukraine in a more coordinated manner.”

Moscow has for years repeatedly criticized NATO’s expansion towards Russia’s borders and has cited the bloc’s policies and increased involvement in Ukraine as being among the key reasons for launching its offensive against Kiev in 2022.

https://www.rt.com/russia/595421-nato-mission-ukraine-poland/amp/
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Quote (zorzin @ Apr 4 2024 09:29pm)
Escalation bros...our time is finally here!

NATO creates ‘joint mission’ in Ukraine – Poland

NATO countries have created a joint mission in Ukraine in order to expand the scope of support the US-led bloc can provide to Kiev, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski announced on Thursday.

Speaking to journalists following a meeting to commemorate the 75th anniversary of NATO, Sikorski declared that the bloc has decided to create a new “mission.” He stressed, however, that “this does not mean that we are going to war, but it does mean that we will now be able to use the coordination, training, planning capabilities of NATO to support Ukraine in a more coordinated manner.”

Moscow has for years repeatedly criticized NATO’s expansion towards Russia’s borders and has cited the bloc’s policies and increased involvement in Ukraine as being among the key reasons for launching its offensive against Kiev in 2022.

https://www.rt.com/russia/595421-nato-mission-ukraine-poland/amp/


Perhaps arestovich is roped back?
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Apr 4 2024 02:26pm
Can't imagine NATO will be openly fighting against Russia, probably replacing security forces in the rear to allow more Ukrainians to go to the front
Some will be placed in Ukrainian units or stationed on western equipment but that is nothing new.

Don't really see what it changes, might be some propaganda value for the west when some of them get killed but harder to sell that while their close ally Israel is actively hunting down westerners for providing aid to Palestinians.
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Apr 4 2024 04:12pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 4 Apr 2024 22:14)
"facts" like:

Like denazifying Zelensky
Bucha massacre was staged.
Secret US biolabs
Ukraine paid for terror attack

etc etc


The fact is there's no need in elections in Ukraine since Zelensky's support is high. Which is very democratic. You can party in Kyev if you have money, you can get electronic subpoenas for mobilization if you don't, but you can't use these opportunities to effectively vote. Denazification of ethnic Jews fades away before this duality.

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 4 2024 04:15pm
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