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Apr 4 2024 09:47am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 09:24am)

Ukrainian drones show their range even more clearly, they can hit anywhere in a radius up to 1500km and im sure Ukrainians will increase this range soon enough.


That was a cessna clone jerry-rigged to be a jihadi suicide plane. It's not going to help in any meaningful way. If ukranians are stating that f16s are no longer gona help than these suicide planes are useless.

"Nothing can help Ukraine now, because there is no serious technology that could replace Ukraine with the large mass of troops that Russia is likely to throw at us. We don't have these technologies, and the West doesn't have them in sufficient quantity,"
F-16 fighters are mentioned as another example. "Every weapon has its time. F-16 fighters were needed in 2023, they will no longer be suitable in 2024."

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/

Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 10:05am)
Since we have nuclear submarines able to stay 6+ months under water carrying devastating nuclear SLBM.
These technologies are completely up since few decades now. I would say since 1980's. Nato "cornering" is an invalid argument


And for decades Russia has taken French nuclear powered submarines into account. F35s with nukes is a completely new phenomenon that Russia is obviously uncomfortable with so close to its borders.
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#42082
Apr 4 2024 09:48am
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Putin is the man in power in Russia and he's very popular if you believe it or not, these are the facts. Opposition in Russia is a dangerous game this is also clear.
All together this means easy victory for Putin, everyone predicted this anyway, did you forget this? I wouldn't call this fraudulent, it's just the way it is. Calling it fraudulent is just massive cope
Anyways why are you still mad about elections in Russia when you don't even live there?


Okay, Putin's elections aren't fraudulent but "just the way it is" ... :rofl:

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Apr 4 2024 09:54am
Quote (zorzin @ Apr 4 2024 05:47pm)
That was a cessna clone jerry-rigged to be a jihadi suicide plane. It's not going to help in any meaningful way. If ukranians are stating that f16s are no longer gona help than these suicide planes are useless.
"Nothing can help Ukraine now, because there is no serious technology that could replace Ukraine with the large mass of troops that Russia is likely to throw at us. We don't have these technologies, and the West doesn't have them in sufficient quantity,"
F-16 fighters are mentioned as another example. "Every weapon has its time. F-16 fighters were needed in 2023, they will no longer be suitable in 2024."
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/
And for decades Russia has taken French nuclear powered submarines into account. F35s with nukes is a completely new phenomenon that Russia is obviously uncomfortable with so close to its borders.


Seems the "new" incoming russian soldiers are not very well trained nor have very much of an experience.
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Apr 4 2024 10:19am
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 04:37pm)
There's nothing you can say. The EU paid Ukraine's bloody gas bills to Gazprom, the EU presented Ukraine a trade agreement (EU-Ukraine Association Agreement) which the Ukrainian president didn't sign and this led to the Maidan protests.

You are left without arguments ;)


And what? That's a provocation for Russia to invade? :rofl:

Your really stretching.

Better stick with the kissinger mearsheimer bullshit. Post the map already.
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#42085
Apr 4 2024 11:12am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 05:48pm)
Okay, Putin's elections aren't fraudulent but "just the way it is" ... :rofl:


You read my entire post didn't you? Bookmarking this ;)


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 4 2024 06:19pm)
And what? That's a provocation for Russia to invade? :rofl:

Your really stretching.

Better stick with the kissinger mearsheimer bullshit. Post the map already.


Didn't you understand that post? I said the Ukrainian president didn't sign it which resulted in the Maidan protests. This was 2014 dude, not 2022

This is a fact, do you need the sources?

Inb4 another dodge
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#42086
Apr 4 2024 12:47pm
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 07:12pm)
You read my entire post didn't you? Bookmarking this ;)




Didn't you understand that post? I said the Ukrainian president didn't sign it which resulted in the Maidan protests. This was 2014 dude, not 2022

This is a fact, do you need the sources?

Inb4 another dodge


+ Yanukovych decided to take the russian deal instead

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 4 2024 12:48pm
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Apr 4 2024 12:53pm
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+ Yanukovych decided to take the russian deal instead


The guy who fled to Russia ? :lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Criminal_cases

Cmon it's grilled.
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Apr 4 2024 12:56pm
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 06:12pm)
You read my entire post didn't you? Bookmarking this ;)




Didn't you understand that post? I said the Ukrainian president didn't sign it which resulted in the Maidan protests. This was 2014 dude, not 2022

This is a fact, do you need the sources?

Inb4 another dodge


Yanukovych went against the previously agreed deal for closer ties with Europe. Agreed by a majority of Ukrainian MP's.

He went full dictator and Ukrainians called his bluff.

Couldn't be anymore obviously a Russian stooge. And where is he now?
Fled like a bitch

You live in an alternate reality of propaganda. I pity your very existence.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 4 2024 12:56pm
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Apr 4 2024 12:56pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 08:53pm)
The guy who fled to Russia ? :lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Criminal_cases

Cmon it's grilled.


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Yanukovych steals russian gas

Yanukovych doesn´t sign the EU-deal offered

Yanukovych decides to sign russian deal

western ukraine coup --> burn down pro-russians in odesa -> donbass conflict/crimea take over -> russia intervention 2022


These are indisputable facts

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 4 2024 12:56pm
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Apr 4 2024 12:57pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Apr 4 2024 07:56pm)
These are indisputable facts


Lies

It was no more a "western" coup than Russias "election" was legitimate.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 4 2024 12:58pm
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