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Apr 4 2024 07:14am
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 03:03pm)
You completely dodged. A dormitory was hit, not the Shahed facility.

By the way, Russia has various missile systems that can strike anywhere in Ukraine and they continue to do so. When talking about drones (to make a fair comparison), Russia is launching wave after wave of Shahed drones that can strike all over Ukraine and for some weird reason these are called dumb / cheap / unreliable / whatever and when Ukraine launches cardboard drones the entire West salivates, or these latest drones that can strike deep into Russia when one or two reach the target. This dormitory near the Shahed facility was hit by one drone if I understand correctly.


Can someone here explain this weird difference in reasoning??


1500 km range deep in the wololo: all these oil refineries which can get hit and hit again. Rectification columns are easy.
+ the recent "promise" about the illegal bridge. I am very curious about this one; Thus i will not say that one will win all of it in 3 months, that would be plenty stupid.

ferdia
this is a lost cause: "Back to the Gulag era" is not the choice of the many.


BTW any news about the ruzzian efforts to repair refineries ?
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Apr 4 2024 07:16am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 4 2024 03:13pm)
So this is Russian imperialism manifest?


??

Where did I say that? Point it out

I say this is geo-politics and this is how your adversary (lets be frank here) might react when they feel cornered. What's so hard to understand here?
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Apr 4 2024 07:18am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 03:14pm)
1500 km range deep in the wololo: all these oil refineries which can get hit and hit again. Rectification columns are easy.
+ the recent "promise" about the illegal bridge. I am very curious about this one; Thus i will not say that one will win all of it in 3 months, that would be plenty stupid.

^ferdia this is a lost cause: "Back to the Gulag era" is not the choice of the many.

BTW any news about the ruzzian efforts to repair refineries ?


When are you going to admit the Shahed facility wasn't hit?

And you believe there will be no countermeasures installed at oil refineries?
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Apr 4 2024 07:24am
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 03:18pm)
When are you going to admit the Shahed facility wasn't hit?
And you believe there will be no countermeasures installed at oil refineries?


Factory wasn't much damaged, even Denys Davydov said it the first day. You are so late, it's terrible.
Ukrainian drones show their range even more clearly, they can hit anywhere in a radius up to 1500km and im sure Ukrainians will increase this range soon enough.

Btw do you think Putin's elections were fraudulent ?

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Apr 4 2024 07:24am
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Apr 4 2024 07:24am
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 02:16pm)
??

Where did I say that? Point it out

I say this is geo-politics and this is how your adversary (lets be frank here) might react when they feel cornered. What's so hard to understand here?


Equally countries bordering Russia feel threatened and seek to join alliances, such as NATO.

Your using a metaphor of "feeling cornered" Russia is the largest land mass of any country on the planet. Finland and Sweden's accession to NATO has done more to "corner" Russia than anything involving Ukraine.

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Apr 4 2024 07:44am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 08:40am)
Finland is part of NATO now... Already in range. NATO nuclear threat is no longer an argument since decades already.
Nothing, absolutely nothing, else.


Decades? More like weeks fam.

The dual capable aircraft serve another element of deterrence alongside the traditional nuclear triad of bombers, submarines and land-launched ICBMs, and are seen by European nations as a key part of staving off Russian aggression. Nuclear capability for the Joint Strike Fighter comes at a critical juncture for NATO amid the war in Ukraine and Russian nuclear saber-rattling in particular.

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/exclusive-f-35a-officially-certified-to-carry-nuclear-bomb/
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Apr 4 2024 08:05am
Quote (zorzin @ Apr 4 2024 03:44pm)
Decades? More like weeks fam.

The dual capable aircraft serve another element of deterrence alongside the traditional nuclear triad of bombers, submarines and land-launched ICBMs, and are seen by European nations as a key part of staving off Russian aggression. Nuclear capability for the Joint Strike Fighter comes at a critical juncture for NATO amid the war in Ukraine and Russian nuclear saber-rattling in particular.

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/exclusive-f-35a-officially-certified-to-carry-nuclear-bomb/


Since we have nuclear submarines able to stay 6+ months under water carrying devastating nuclear SLBM.
These technologies are completely up since few decades now. I would say since 1980's. Nato "cornering" is an invalid argument.

The only "real" reason is that a small circle of people doesn't want to lose its wealth and undemocratic privileges. Sad.
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Apr 4 2024 09:30am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2024 03:24pm)
Factory wasn't much damaged, even Denys Davydov said it the first day. You are so late, it's terrible.
Ukrainian drones show their range even more clearly, they can hit anywhere in a radius up to 1500km and im sure Ukrainians will increase this range soon enough.

Btw do you think Putin's elections were fraudulent ?


Putin is the man in power in Russia and he's very popular if you believe it or not, these are the facts. Opposition in Russia is a dangerous game this is also clear.

All together this means easy victory for Putin, everyone predicted this anyway, did you forget this? I wouldn't call this fraudulent, it's just the way it is. Calling it fraudulent is just massive cope


Anyways why are you still mad about elections in Russia when you don't even live there?


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 4 2024 03:24pm)
Equally countries bordering Russia feel threatened and seek to join alliances, such as NATO.

Your using a metaphor of "feeling cornered" Russia is the largest land mass of any country on the planet. Finland and Sweden's accession to NATO has done more to "corner" Russia than anything involving Ukraine.


You mean EU and NATO dangling juicy carrots in the form of trade deals and EU membership with the promise of boatloads of subsidies. Of course those countries take the bait.

The one and only reason for the West to do this is to reduce Russia's influence and Black Sea control but you know that. Why would NATO be interested in a corrupt poor ass country with old Soviet infrastructure and old Soviet military?

Finland and Sweden literally have nothing to do with this and that those countries became NATO members actually makes sense. Rich Western countries, no corruption to speak of and so on. But again, you know that ;)


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Apr 4 2024 09:31am
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2024 04:30pm)
Putin is the man in power in Russia and he's very popular if you believe it or not, these are the facts. Opposition in Russia is a dangerous game this is also clear.

All together this means easy victory for Putin, everyone predicted this anyway, did you forget this? I wouldn't call this fraudulent, it's just the way it is. Calling it fraudulent is just massive cope


Anyways why are you still mad about elections in Russia when you don't even live there?




You mean EU and NATO dangling juicy carrots in the form of trade deals and EU membership with the promise of boatloads of subsidies. Of course those countries take the bait.

The one and only reason for the West to do this is to reduce Russia's influence and Black Sea control but you know that. Why would NATO be interested in a corrupt poor ass country with old Soviet infrastructure and old Soviet military?

Finland and Sweden literally have nothing to do with this and that those countries became NATO members actually makes sense. Rich Western countries, no corruption to speak of and so on. But again, you know that ;)


Wow thats a lot of dishonesty in one post, even by your standards.

Won't bother addressing that nonsense besides calling it out.

Thats nonsense.
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Apr 4 2024 09:37am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 4 2024 05:31pm)
Wow thats a lot of dishonesty in one post, even by your standards.

Won't bother addressing that nonsense besides calling it out.

Thats nonsense.


There's nothing you can say. The EU paid Ukraine's bloody gas bills to Gazprom, the EU presented Ukraine a trade agreement (EU-Ukraine Association Agreement) which the Ukrainian president didn't sign and this led to the Maidan protests.

You are left without arguments ;)
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