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Feb 23 2020 07:28pm
Today i see that 65% of americans think that trump will win a second round, how are they so sure ? Maybe politics fatalism ?
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Feb 23 2020 07:30pm
Quote (excellence @ Feb 23 2020 12:39pm)
they are for bought/paid/controlled politicians like Clinton/Buttigieg/Biden etc. On the other side they love candidates like McCain/Ryno Ryan/Romney

this is how they view any other candidate:

https://i.imgur.com/nRryPYB.jpg

persuading people to vote for you = dark arts. barnie winning nevada = just like the national-socialist army invading france. a bit of racism/anti-semitic filled dog whistles from disgusting pale pasty privileged lefty #fakenews tabloid merchants like nicolle wallace and chris matthews


Bernie is just mad because he's the least successful Jew in the world so he lashes out. Both Trump and Sanders use similar, excessive language to point out the problems in our society. They boil it down to simple terms (bad deals, stupid leaders, ripped off, grotesque wealth, etc.) In short, they are both demagogues.

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Vast parts of the media are indeed all in for cookie-cutter "liberalism" (in the contemporary American sense of the word), not for actual leftists.
They support leftist policies on social and cultural issues which divide the country and distract from their unwillingness to change the economic status quo in a meaningful way.


There's a reason why many Republicans and Democrats agree on economic issues. The leftists are simply wrong :rofl:
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Feb 23 2020 07:37pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 23 2020 05:37am)
Fuckin weird how it doesn't affect your immediate friends (it probly does actually) so you don't care but what you do care about is what America does in other countries...

Bizarre disconnect.


Well, what America does in other countries is really important given that we IMPORT more than we export. Markets are global and thrive when there is stability. America needs allies in order to ensure that our influence is felt throughout the world. All of that affects us more than whatever stupid culture war topic is being discussed for one simple reason: $$$$$$$$$$
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Feb 23 2020 08:09pm
Fivethiryeight's model now has Bernie with a 45% chance of winning an outright majority of delegates, and a 69% chance at a plurality.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Honestly, I thought these numbers would be a little higher.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 23 2020 09:09pm)
Fivethiryeight's model now has Bernie with a 45% chance of winning an outright majority of delegates, and a 69% chance at a plurality.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Honestly, I thought these numbers would be a little higher.


Still pretty good numbers, I'm sure the Bernie team is happy. The Nevada victory is incredible for them and highly likely that it'll give them some momentum that will be reflected in the updated polls coming in the next few days. Most recent poll has shown that Biden's lead in South Carolina has shrunk to just 5% in front of Bernie, it's possible this could shrink even more. Biden is also running out of money for ads which is hilarious. His donor base keep losing more faith in him day by day.

SC debate will be incredibly important for Bernie, if he's able to have an average and above it's not outside the realm of possibility that he'd be able to take it. For Bernie even a very close second place in the 1-3% range would still be good considering that his team is not really spending much time and effort in South Carolina. A close race or a win that basically comes to him without little to no effort would be incredible for him.


Something to keep watching for in that primary is this particular endorsement
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Washington (CNN) South Carolina Rep. James Clyburn on Sunday said he'll endorse a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate after Tuesday night's Democratic debate -- just three days before the state's primary, a key early contest in the party's nomination process.

Clyburn, the House Majority Whip and a key South Carolina voice, has not yet made a public endorsement in the race but said he'll announce his decision Wednesday morning. The third-ranking Democrat in the Housetold CNN's Fredricka Whitfield that he has known for some time who he was going to support, but that he had promised the Democratic National Committee and the South Carolina debate sponsors he would not "get out in front of the debate and render any kind of confusion about it."
"I'm going to reveal exactly who I think is best and why I think that person is best," he said of his planned Wednesday announcement. "I hope that there would be a majority of South Carolinians agreeing with me."


For a long time people have been under the impression that his choice would be Joe Biden considering how well he was polling and how his "let's work with republicans" attitude fits well with South Carolina. It's still highly likely that he'll still go with Biden considering some of the language he's used but if he changes his mind this would just be the death of Biden.




As for Super Tuesday, Bernie was in Texas yesterday which is a good move considering how many latinos voted for him in Nevada. Getting the latino vote is key for that state and for some others and it's good to cultivate good will with the voting block early.

This post was edited by Helloween7 on Feb 23 2020 11:44pm
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Feb 24 2020 01:31am
That Bernie has a great stance on Israel-Palestine issue, he's NOT joining APAIC, well... Almost all democrats are not joining this neo-zionist thingy anymore.
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That Bernie has a great stance on Israel-Palestine issue, he's NOT joining APAIC, well... Almost all democrats are not joining this neo-zionist thingy anymore.


has ben shapiro called him a 'self-hating jew' yet?
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Feb 24 2020 08:28am
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484307-scarborough-time-for-warren-klobuchar-to-drop-out-to-help-consolidate-efforts

noted political commentator and misogynistic homewrecker suggests the two highest performing (D) women candidates drop out to defeat barnie, despite working for almost a year on their campaigns

he did not offer the same advice to the guy who started his campaign 3 months ago by spending ~$150MM/month and doing nothing else :lol:
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Quote (Helloween7 @ 24 Feb 2020 06:43)
Still pretty good numbers, I'm sure the Bernie team is happy. The Nevada victory is incredible for them and highly likely that it'll give them some momentum that will be reflected in the updated polls coming in the next few days. Most recent poll has shown that Biden's lead in South Carolina has shrunk to just 5% in front of Bernie, it's possible this could shrink even more. Biden is also running out of money for ads which is hilarious. His donor base keep losing more faith in him day by day.

SC debate will be incredibly important for Bernie, if he's able to have an average and above it's not outside the realm of possibility that he'd be able to take it. For Bernie even a very close second place in the 1-3% range would still be good considering that his team is not really spending much time and effort in South Carolina. A close race or a win that basically comes to him without little to no effort would be incredible for him.


Something to keep watching for in that primary is this particular endorsement

For a long time people have been under the impression that his choice would be Joe Biden considering how well he was polling and how his "let's work with republicans" attitude fits well with South Carolina. It's still highly likely that he'll still go with Biden considering some of the language he's used but if he changes his mind this would just be the death of Biden.




As for Super Tuesday, Bernie was in Texas yesterday which is a good move considering how many latinos voted for him in Nevada. Getting the latino vote is key for that state and for some others and it's good to cultivate good will with the voting block early.


Clyburn's endorsement is huge. He's the most influential figure in the Congressional Black Caucus, and probably the most influential African American politician in the entire party (only Obama ranks higher than Clyburn in terms of sway, but he's technically retired and will most likely stay out of the primaries).
So yeah, if Clyburn doesnt endorse Biden, then Uncle Joe is definitely toast.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 24 2020 11:53am
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Feb 24 2020 12:19pm
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has ben shapiro called him a 'self-hating jew' yet?


Sanders is ruining his precious neo-zionist "pride". He's terrified.
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