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Apr 25 2019 08:15am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 25 2019 07:12am)
Bullshit. Ilhan Omar is constantly and consistently spouting the standard talking points of militant palestinians when it comes to Israel, and the talking points of islamists when it comes to american foreign policy.

She is not an innocent actor who we can give the benefit of the doubt. Those are her bread and butter topics, she's either unimaginably incompetent, or she's fully aware of the context of the stuff she's saying and tweeting.


I've already mentioned I think she plays with fire and I'm fine with it to the point that I think voters should deal with it just like I think the same way about the bullshit Trump says

don't support either and don't call either's speech "disqualifying" in the way it's being used against her

Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 25 2019 07:11am)
"burning everything down with speech"

interestingly meaningless turn of phrase.

If you refuse to recognize the difference between wanting to restore liberty to Americans and siding with foreign enemies against the United States that isn't on me.

There is no hypocrisy there on my part.


Too bad so many of you have sold it all out to hate on the left and kiss Trump's ass

I used to agree with you guys when it comes to criticizing the government and our misdeeds foreign and domestic

guess yall don't have the integrity you're always boasting about
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Apr 25 2019 08:16am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 25 Apr 2019 15:12)
Bullshit. Ilhan Omar is constantly and consistently spouting the standard talking points of militant palestinians when it comes to Israel, and the talking points of islamists when it comes to american foreign policy.

She is not an innocent actor who we can give the benefit of the doubt. Those are her bread and butter topics, she's either unimaginably incompetent, or she's fully aware of the context of the stuff she's saying and tweeting.


could you name a few of her talking points that identify her as 'islamist' when it comes to american foreign policy?
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Quote (Beowulf @ Apr 25 2019 09:15am)


Too bad so many of you have sold it all out to hate on the left and kiss Trump's ass

I used to agree with you guys when it comes to criticizing the government and our misdeeds foreign and domestic

guess yall don't have the integrity you're always boasting about



My integrity is perfectly intact.

If someone criticizing your precious Islamic extremist representative is enough for you to stop agreeing with valid criticisms of the US government, that says more about your character than it does about me.

You apparently don't have the honesty and integrity to admit you understand what I said.
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Apr 25 2019 08:27am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 25 2019 07:22am)
My integrity is perfectly intact.

If someone criticizing your precious Islamic extremist representative is enough for you to stop agreeing with valid criticisms of the US government, that says more about your character than it does about me.

You apparently don't have the honesty and integrity to admit you understand what I said.


I don't politically support her

I support her as an American a refugee Muslim American citizen that is every bit as much American as I am as a Native American

Not agreeing with her sometimes and not liking her approach sometimes doesn't change that

she's not "my precious islamic extremist representative" she's just my fellow American
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Apr 25 2019 08:38am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 25 2019 09:12am)
Bullshit. Ilhan Omar is constantly and consistently spouting the standard talking points of militant palestinians when it comes to Israel, and the talking points of islamists when it comes to american foreign policy.

She is not an innocent actor who we can give the benefit of the doubt. Those are her bread and butter topics, she's either unimaginably incompetent, or she's fully aware of the context of the stuff she's saying and tweeting.


I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Omar is clearly religious, so I'm not sure if her hashtag was a reference to the US being "the great satan".

But even if it was, it doesn't mean that's a terrorist talking point. It's a phrase invoked by people who think the US has overthrown governments in the Middle East, killed a bunch of innocent people, and destabilized the region. Those are things non-interventionists usually agree with.

I disagree with Omar on most issues, I just don't understand you and Cambo criticizing her for this particular thing.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 25 2019 08:39am
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I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Omar is clearly religious, so I'm not sure if her hashtag was a reference to the US being "the great satan".

But even if it was, it doesn't mean that's a terrorist talking point. It's a phrase invoked by people who think the US has overthrown governments in the Middle East, killed a bunch of innocent people, and destabilized the region. Those are things non-interventionists usually agree with.

I disagree with Omar on most issues, I just don't understand you and Cambo criticizing her for this particular thing.


They are authoritarian ofc.
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Quote (IceMage @ Apr 25 2019 08:34am)
I'm not even sure that's the reference she intended to make. But even if it was, it's not disqualifying.

What's the substantial difference between calling the US government/military "the great satan", and painting a narrative of corrupt globalists who overthrow governments and start wars to enrich the military industrial complex? It's pretty much the same thing.


The operation in Somalia was in support of UN humanitarian objectives, the hundreds of Somalis killed were part of a mob that overran American positions, killed soldiers, and dragged them through the street.

Omar's family fled to avoid being killed by the same militias the United States was combating. The battle of Mogadishu eventually led to the United States withdrawing from the region, and to no one's surprise Somalia is still a violence wracked mess today.

Omar blames the United States because it's easier and more satisfying than coming to grips with the internal and external factors that led to the collapse of the Somali state in 1991.

Did Somalia need to invade Ethiopia in the 70s? Of course not, and Soviet support for Ethiopia eventually led to Somalia's defeat, popular unrest, and the collapse of the central government.

No, no, Omar blames the United States, presumably for no other reason than because she's been fed that lie since she was born, compounded and amplified by leftist apologists in the United States.
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