That is just....nuts...

But Biblically accurate.

Interestingly, something being nuts while also being Biblically accurate is actually quite a common occurrence.

"This one chick ate an apple I told her not to eat, so now humanity has to suffer and you get cystic fibrosis."

assume steady state and rigid body

A god capable of doing anything and which knows everything cannot have a motivation because it will never lack anything, so it cannot desire anything.



I'm a biochemist so I prefer constant pressure instead of constant volume.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 31 2016 03:20pm

...any illness , including the most horrific , is only temporary . It's not even a blip in eternity .

Our collective rejection, or individual rejection? I mean, there are people who are devoutly religious with auto-immune diseases. I'm an atheist without any auto-immune disease. It would be strange to hear that the religious individual is suffering because of my own beliefs.

...collective - to paraphrase Scripture , " the rain falls on the just and the unjust " .

That's very interesting. I've not heard that phrase before.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Mar 31 2016 05:06pm

...we are all children of God .

Yes I have, tell me what you think it is.



So tell me what it was if it wasn't a sacrifice. He took the punishment that we all deserve, the great swap. What is that if it isn't a sacrifice? Oh and I'm so glad that you took back what you said about me being a decent human being. I don't run from my past. I tell you the truth, I'm not a good person. I never have been a good person.

Then again you did admit that he still took our sin and died on the cross for us. I guess that means you believe, welcome to Christianity.



I never said you were God. I said humans take the position of God as ruler over there life. Sitting on the throne doesn't automatically make you King, yet you desire to sit there instead of the rightful King. The law makers/government may control what you do but I mean your personal life. Seeking the next big gain. Perhaps the next career step or the next big paycheck.
That is the treasures and riches that you seek. Maybe that holiday or retirement you've been so longing for. For where your heart is, there your treasure will be also. In doing this, you forget all about God entirely and do not put him into the equation.

Jesus says that if the world hates you, remember that it hated Jesus first. If the world loves you, it would accept you as its own. We do not belong to the world so the world hates us. That is why I could careless about human praise. I also do not need to defend God based on that last sentence. I'll let God answer that one on the day you die.



If you truly believe that then everything you want to attain is also a selfish gain. We're all just very selfish human beings with selfish desires. If you believe that with me then you just said the same thing about yourself, whether you want to admit it or not.



Well I'm going to type it again except in bold: Why would a God need a human to sacrifice in order to feed God? Is God like a baby that humans need to feed them? That's what the other religions do. Psalm 50:12 states that: "If I were hungry I would not tell you, for the world is mine, and all that is in it."
What else does God say? Jeremiah 32:27 "I am the Lord, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me?"

You want to hear another bold claim? Jesus is the son of God. Jesus is in the father and the father is in him. He is the way, the truth and the life. Nobody comes to the father except by him.



You feel bad for those do you? What are you doing about it? I'm sure that most of us have charities that we support. How do you help those who are born blind?

I'm saying that action should follow on from what you feel about a situation. If it is all feeling and no action then I'd have to question how genuine that feeling is.



Earth is part of the Universe, it was made along with it.



I stand by what I said. We live by faith and not by sight. In Romans 1:20 it states that: "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."

You cannot claim ignorance and enter the Kingdom of Heaven. If there are those who have never seen or heard about Jesus, then it is all the more reason to go out and tell others about his great love.

The sight is not on a physical sense so to speak but in a spiritual sense. There is a huge difference.



Why not? I believe it does, he rose again and that is the big event. We did just have Easter after all.



Like what? You see an event unfolding in front of you. In this day and age you'd expect to get video footage but that won't always be the case. Somebody comes running up to you and tells you a story. The only thing you have is their word.

If you were to go out and investigate you'd ask other people who were there and they'd tell you the same story but in their perspective. At what point do you credit or discredit their stories? The only thing you have is their word.



The Bible has eyewitness testimonies about the things that we have clearly seen and heard about. The book of Luke is all about that. Luke, a doctor, has carefully investigated from eyewitness accounts the events of Jesus.

Is it true that the Quran was written about 600 years after the events of Jesus? What new evidence unfolds 600 years after an event? Imagine in about 500 years from now some kind of new evidence unfolds about the Titanic.
Or back then you could have asked the eyewitnesses about what happened.

I'm more inclined to believe what Luke has written down.



You see, you say DEMAND their love yet you didn't like the fact that God put the tree of knowledge in the Garden. If God did not put the tree of knowledge in the Garden, how is that not demanding their love?
They are given no choice.

Explain how it is ridiculous that God chose a nation as his holy people? He chose his nation through one person, Abraham.

Does not God love? For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son so that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
There is no greater love than this, to lay down one's life for another. That is what Jesus did, demonstrating the ultimate act of love by sacrificing his life for us.

Well because he spent his time telling them to kill, enslave and brutalise everyone else.

Did God love the Canaanites? What about the people of Jericho?

This post was edited by Scaly on Apr 1 2016 06:19am