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Quote (zorzin @ Apr 3 2024 05:10pm)
How any Ukrainian attack would unfold is unclear and there are serious doubts about whether the HUR is capable of pulling off a special operation against such a well-defended and obvious target. Russia has taken extensive measures to protect the bridge, strengthening anti-aircraft defences and deploying a “target barge” as a decoy for incoming guided missiles.

The officials indicated that western weapons would allow Ukraine to destroy the bridge more speedily and Zelenskiy has repeatedly asked Berlin for its long-range Taurus missile system. Germany’s chancellor, Olaf Scholz, has so far refused, arguing that this would be tantamount to his country taking a direct role in the war with Russia, and a dangerous escalation

Taurus status?



Ukraine announced few months ago (august) the development of a missile capable of hitting a target 700 kilometers away.
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Quote (Hobbiks @ Apr 3 2024 04:27pm)
I think it's very sad and incredibly ironic that the person who says "Don't try to twist my words" literally twists my words and says (with quotation marks) that i've said i have: "superior world views". It just goes to show why people shouldn't really take you or the sources you provide seriously as you frequently project things you yourself do onto others as a strawman argument.

You just ramble off your NPC talking points again, never getting closer to discussing the question at hand or responding to arguments (because of incapability or willingness we will never know). We get it, you're afraid. Ill restate my argument, as i usually do when you deflect and cower like a dog in the street:

So just so everyone understands: " I truly don't care if it's Galloway's reaction or any other guy" - You don't care who presents you with information, just as long as that information backs up your worldview?

"you are trying to change the conversation to Galloway and I'm not going to let you." - Just to be clear, you posted Galloway and I asked you why. I specifically asked: Isn't this guy a presenter on RT? You would think that you (and others) could find other corroborating information other than opinion pieces by state actors? Seems a little bit weird to me that the only people who seem to affirm your worldview are people being paid by the same people you tend to agree with.

If you don't care where your information comes from and you aren't source critical at all then I would understand why you wouldn't want to discuss your sources (since they don't stand scrutiny but it doesn't matter to you anyways). I think most people would want to know where their information comes from instead of just being sheeple, following some guy completely uncritically and blindly because he happens to agree with you.


You continuously take a dump on others mentioning "their world views" which means you think your world views are superior to others. It's incredibly sad and ironic that you don't even notice that you do this.


--> I don't care if Galloway presented something on RT and it's no reason to dismiss him anyways. Are we also going to dismiss CNN for example because of all their pro-Ukraine presentations???

I said several times now that the point I made is the 1.5 Billion and that the UK is giving this money to Ukraine. This is a fact which obviously is the reason you don't react to that and keep rambling about b-b-but Galloway

SMH


Quote (Hobbiks @ Apr 3 2024 04:36pm)
Scott Ritter is not an expert on the geo politics of Eastern Europe. Ritter was not making comments about munitions and their capabilities, in the video Ferdia linked that never once came up. How come you disagree with Ritter about what he is an expert on?

"So why do I think he is a shit source? Well he has had a vendetta against US" - Great you don't like Ritter. There were several reasons that came up as to why Ritter is not credible, but right now we are discussing strictly his credentials. The fact that his career was over in the US has been discussed ad nauseum.


Scott Ritter together with others have pointed out many times that Russia will outproduce the West when it comes to artillery shells. They were right, not the Western trash news outlets that were claiming Russia was running out of everything.

Secondly you don't dictate what source people here watch or post no matter how much you dislike that ;)

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Apr 3 2024 09:29am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 3 2024 05:06pm)
Usual crap of bitching on NATO etc... Congrats.

Ukraine intends to destroy Russia's illegal Crimean Bridge in Kerch in the first half of 2024, The Guardian reported on April 3, citing anonymous sources.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack
==> Why so late ?


doesn´t really matter, the railways north are gonna be completed
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Apr 3 2024 09:30am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 3 2024 05:06pm)
Usual crap of bitching on NATO etc... Congrats.

Ukraine intends to destroy Russia's illegal Crimean Bridge in Kerch in the first half of 2024, The Guardian reported on April 3, citing anonymous sources.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack
==> Why so late ?


Ukraine has "destroyed" the bridge two times already did you forget that?

How many bridges were destroyed in Ukraine by the way? Or you don't care?

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Apr 3 2024 09:35am
Quote (Djunior @ 3 Apr 2024 23:30)
Ukraine has "destroyed" the bridge two times already did you forget that?

How many bridges were destroyed in Ukraine by the way? Or you don't care?


Usual crap of oppressing the LGBTQ Community... Congrats

Biden decides to go for transitioning after he step down as the President of USA in the Second Half of 2025 to show the world how a humanist President should better protect minorities by example., Breibart reported, citing anonymous sources.

LGBTQ community is asking...why so late ?
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Apr 3 2024 09:40am
Quote (ownyaah @ Apr 3 2024 04:50pm)
I don´t know how someone can read something, and entirely miss the meaning of what was said


So you agree that Ritter is not an expert on the geo politics of eastern europe? Good thing we agree, you me and Ritter i guess.
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Apr 3 2024 09:42am
Quote (ownyaah @ Apr 3 2024 05:29pm)
doesn´t really matter, the railways north are gonna be completed

Quote (Djunior @ Apr 3 2024 05:30pm)
Ukraine has "destroyed" the bridge two times already did you forget that?
How many bridges were destroyed in Ukraine by the way? Or you don't care?


Will see what they do, this bridge is illegal anyway. Railways seems to be easy to destroy, all along the line...


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 3 2024 05:35pm)
Usual crap of oppressing the LGBTQ Community... Congrats

Biden decides to go for transitioning after he step down as the President of USA in the Second Half of 2025 to show the world how a humanist President should better protect minorities by example., Breibart reported, citing anonymous sources.

LGBTQ community is asking...why so late ?




This post was edited by Meanwhile on Apr 3 2024 09:42am
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Quote (Hobbiks @ Apr 3 2024 05:40pm)
So you agree that Ritter is not an expert on the geo politics of eastern europe? Good thing we agree, you me and Ritter i guess.


low quality shitpost

Also, railway can´t really be destroyed, it is 100 times easier to repair than to destroy. The stations can also be placed far from the front, so this is a pointless exercise

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Quote (Djunior @ Apr 3 2024 05:27pm)
You continuously take a dump on others mentioning "their world views" which means you think your world views are superior to others. It's incredibly sad and ironic that you don't even notice that you do this.


--> I don't care if Galloway presented something on RT and it's no reason to dismiss him anyways. Are we also going to dismiss CNN for example because of all their pro-Ukraine presentations???

I said several times now that the point I made is the 1.5 Billion and that the UK is giving this money to Ukraine. This is a fact which obviously is the reason you don't react to that and keep rambling about b-b-but Galloway

SMH




Scott Ritter together with others have pointed out many times that Russia will outproduce the West when it comes to artillery shells. They were right, not the Western trash news outlets that were claiming Russia was running out of everything.

Secondly you don't dictate what source people here watch or post no matter how much you dislike that ;)




"You continuously take a dump on others mentioning "their world views" which means you think your world views are superior to others." - Thats your framing, You quite literally put quotes implying I had said something. I don't know if you understand how a citation works, but it should be exact. You were literally twisting my words while asking me not to do so to you, it was the height of irony and honestly pretty funny. You're the gift that keeps on giving!

"I don't care if Galloway presented something on RT and it's no reason to dismiss him anyways. Are we also going to dismiss CNN for example because of all their pro-Ukraine presentations???" - Wow, you are learning about source credibility for the first time. So lets take this step by step, I'm super glad you bring this up:

1) So just so everyone understands: " I truly don't care if it's Galloway's reaction or any other guy" - You don't care who presents you with information, just as long as that information backs up your worldview? You just affirmed that by saying "I don't care if Galloway presented something on RT". You are uninterested if someone is a paid propagandist who earns their money from working with a state actor affirming their position in an ongoing conflict. Again, just be honest about it.

2) We SHOULD be critical of CNN, ofcourse. There are major differences between how CNN gets funded and the media systems they exist under as compared to the Russian one (which you can learn about if you want, i happen to be sitting on quite a few articles about eastern european media systems from contemporary media studies). With that said, there are several works VERY critical of american media culture, among others Manufacturing Consent which was written 50+ years ago. CNN should not be trusted blindly and neither should a state actor with absolutely no expertise in the topic at hand. Instead, being source critical, we should ask for primary sources or multiple framings of the same story.

"I said several times now that the point I made is the 1.5 Billion and that the UK is giving this money to Ukraine" - Completely uninteresting point nobody is discussing. I asked you about your choice of sourcing and you deflected, sorry snowflake, that one isn't gonna work on me. I know how dishonestly you operate now and will always put your back against the wall by repeating my question until you answer it or simply leave the conversation.

"Scott Ritter together with others have pointed out many times that Russia will outproduce the West" - Hunter Biden said that there will be rain in the coming year, does that mean Hunter Biden is right about everything? This is just strange anecdotal evidence that doesn't prove that Ritter is a) always right or b ) a trustworthy source and not a paid actor who has a vested interest in one part of the ongoing war.

"Secondly you don't dictate what source people here watch or post no matter how much you dislike that" - I've never done that, thats your strange reading or apparent illiteracy. Again, just putting words in my mouth. By all means, watch as much Ritter as you want, regardless of how much you watch it will still be a pretty untrustworthy source and I think people are smart enough to see through the bullshit and not just uncritically follow some pedo just because you say he's smart sometimes. Up to them though.

This post was edited by Hobbiks on Apr 3 2024 09:56am
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Sometimes I'm shocked by how low quality some western propaganda seems but then I see the intended audience and it all makes sense
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