They forced my country into Nato, the democratic Sweden with corrupt politicians selling out at every corner, the work from a people who don't get to vote about fuck all. Now they say we should pay 100 billion SEK to Ukraine over 5 years..

A war that the "righteous" west top investment groups, BlackRock & co seem to use to just buy up Ukraine. It's so tragic... Idk what to do. I hope Americans vote for rfk jr..or that trump who likely will will let rfk kr in on some of the politics, regarding foreign wars, and agriculture, the digital currency plans and few other things...


https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/war-theft-takeover-ukraine-agricultural-land

Trump will be more isolationist and cost European countries more in bolstering defence.

You should realise that spending 2% of GDP on defence is a fucking great deal and collective security of NATO allows individual countries to spend way, way less than they otherwise would have to.

That 100billion SEK is likely for Swedish defence manufacturers.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 2 2024 02:20pm

it is only right and proper for each country in nato to spend 2%. Most observers agree with Trump on this. I am not in favor of trump but he is right on this (in my opinion).

Absolutely and he is not the first. Bush said it. Obama said it.
The peace dividend is over. Europeans ought to embrace an active deterrent; And realise that sovereignty is not guaranteed, especially when some are openly in favour of appeasing revisionist dictators.

The alternative to this and to the US stepping back from supporting its allies will be more nuclear proliferation.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/01/ukraine-might-be-getting-34-billion-in-american-weapons-and-soon/

Johnson is starting to feel the heat and he won't be long for his position as speaker if he doesn't make the correct decisions quickly.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 2 2024 04:49pm

NATO is a very nice deal for weapon industry. How nice huh.

Should spend 2% without NATO anyway, and I would prefer a Nordic defense pack far more than corrupt corporate America who fucks everyone over anywhere and everywhere for profit, just like Nato is s tool for BlackRock & friends weapon industries.

Us don't care for European countries or their people, (hello, scamdemic corporate lockdowns to mention one recent hugely corrupt power grab, trying to force vaccine passports on us to the profit interests of largely American big pharma, and they even somehow bought/bribed or coerced, threatened or extrorted the poeple involved to be able to do it, it's one scandal after the other and an incredibly criminal behavior from the "top" but OH Yeah Russia is the only bad guys around), they don't give a care for Ukrainians! They, companies under BlackRock are trying to grab land in Ukraine, that seems to be largely what this is about. And money laundering.

Obama banned a bunch of Dr faucis experiments on us soil to be continued in labs over in places like Ukraine and that Wuhan lab in China. Bio weapon development and shit, that should be banned everywhere. I remember early on Russia attacking labs in Ukraine. What the hell was in those labs that the us was worried russians would get to - was it in part bioweapon research programs?? Or What??

they're also pissed that some years ago Russia and China made their own central bank, they probably have gone to war over that before, not officially of course.

us incorporated don't care even for their own people, their own veterans, their own housing problem, housing costs and homeless, their own people's health, food quality, soil quality, the small farmers, the inflation wars, the money printing inflation "tax" from the corona politics, they don't even care for their own boarders! Past 3-4 years you have had much possibly more than the equivalent population number of my whole country crossing over illegally. But yeah try to convince me they give two cares for the people of Europe or my country and NATO being a good deal for everyone.


They somehow colluded our sellout politicians to support Ukraine with offensive military equipment - which is, or was against our rules of supposed neutrality and that of course sets us on the bad side of Russia and we don't need that.... plus the risk, however small of wmd's if this conflict escalates - yeah do u think we fucking want American bases on our land, really?

- Our country is almost ruined by huge the migration waves from countries that us has been bombing to pieces. And we're being exploited bad. Our welfare system för one thing is drained so bad we don't even take proper care of our own elderly anymore, our social security safety net out the fucking window, going from a very rich country to a very compromised one in 2 decades with crime.rates through the roof. Now we got daily shootings and even bombs going off like every few days. "America fuck yeah."

This post was edited by TidsL on Apr 2 2024 08:16pm

Double post

This post was edited by TidsL on Apr 2 2024 08:08pm

Timing...uploaded 12 minutes ago

So just so everyone understands: " I truly don't care if it's Galloway's reaction or any other guy" - You don't care who presents you with information, just as long as that information backs up your worldview?

"you are trying to change the conversation to Galloway and I'm not going to let you." - Just to be clear, you posted Galloway and I asked you why. I specifically asked: Isn't this guy a presenter on RT? You would think that you (and others) could find other corroborating information other than opinion pieces by state actors? Seems a little bit weird to me that the only people who seem to affirm your worldview are people being paid by the same people you tend to agree with.

If you don't care where your information comes from and you aren't source critical at all then I would understand why you wouldn't want to discuss your sources (since they don't stand scrutiny but it doesn't matter to you anyways). I think most people would want to know where their information comes from instead of just being sheeple, following some guy completely uncritically and blindly because he happens to agree with you.

This post was edited by Hobbiks on Apr 3 2024 12:19am

I invited you several times to read over the topic from the start, to review the documents and video's posted. I have not seen you posting to state you have done this. You are smearing the messenger in order to ignore the message. This is a well established tactic and is not healthy for good debate. We saw the same thing with Scott Ritter. The fact is George Galloway was democratically elected by an overwhelming majority of people in his constituency so like it not, he is the voice of his people. We have posted several video's in this topic related to George Galloway and they are not radical. The fact that you have not exercised yourself to watch them, or rather, acknowledge them, or read over the entire topic before posting in this topic is just ignorance. Most of us are old enough now not to accept things at face value and to take in what is being sald with a grain of salt.

The facts that cannot be argued are : England has continued to support the escalation of this war, played an active role in preventing a negotiated peace, is in deep trouble economically, yet still has the wherewithal to continue funding this war and to shop around the world to ensure more countries continue this war. Debating the merits of escalating the war and the right/wrong of waging this war does not change the history of events.

Poland is fear mongering the world, they are not the only ones, watch out, you will be next they say, when fundamentally Russia has not demonstrated an ability or inclination to attack Nato. They have not conscripted enough men for this narrative to be deemed credible, yet here we are. If Russia conscripted 5 million men then yes, I would be in agreement with you. But they have not, for years, and they have not moved on western Ukraine. This supports the land bridge / crimea narrative. it does not support the Ukraine today, Poland and Germany tomorrow narrative. I cant get away from that point. The map tells its own story.

Yes, Europe, by all means arm yourselves to the teeth, but dont send troops, that is leading us to a path of WW3. incidentally bombing targets 100's of miles inside Russia has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen, but here we are.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 3 2024 01:09am

"I invite you to read of the topic from the start"
lol, a 1600 page topic.

Anyone claiming that Galloway represents anyone but himself is completely out of their mind and lying.

His first words after getting elected (because the Labour did not have a candidate) were "This is for Gaza!"
He is supposed to represent the people of fucking Rochdale

The guy is a washed up dog whistling dictator groping sycophant. Just what you guys appear to respect the most!
I mean its an improvement from you guys trying to whitewash Scott Ritter the expert paedophile, but god damn do better.

Never forget -



This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 3 2024 01:19am