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Mar 31 2024 05:44am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 31 2024 12:43pm)
^ownyaah to be honest I still side with Hobbiks here on the basis that he was trying to catch Djunior out and Djunior's argument was not sound. While Russia could also release "Official" estimates of Ukrainian dead, this was not Djunior's argument and there are issues with this rebuttal. I feel its a thought exercise / debate, on balance, I still agree with Hobbiks.

no big deal.


Hobbiks original statement was false because russians have given their own casualty numbers 2-3 times.

So djunior technically was correct, that the statement was wrong. But for all the wrong reasons.


The way i see it:
ownyaah: 2
hobbis: 0
Djunior: 0

Actually this discussion is extra stupid

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 31 2024 05:44am
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Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 31 2024 11:44am)
Hobbiks original statement was false because russians have given their own casualty numbers 2-3 times.

So djunior technically was correct, that the statement was wrong. But for all the wrong reasons.


The way i see it:
ownyaah: 2
hobbis: 0
Djunior: 0

Actually this discussion is extra stupid


wtf why am i not in there is is outrageous ! I should be 0. wtf man. this is toxic.
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Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 31 2024 12:40pm)
Shoigu has disclosed 2 times: here is end of 2022

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/21/russian-defence-minister-shoigu-5937-russian-soldiers-killed-in-ukraine-news

If you don´t view shoigu as an official source, i don´t know what to say


Looks like they've made changes then. Interesting, thank you for sourcing it so quickly!
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Mar 31 2024 05:49am
Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 31 2024 01:44pm)
Hobbiks original statement was false because russians have given their own casualty numbers 2-3 times.

So djunior technically was correct, that the statement was wrong. But for all the wrong reasons.


The way i see it:
ownyaah: 2
hobbis: 0
Djunior: 0

Actually this discussion is extra stupid


I said that 31K casualties (reported by Zelensky) is laughable

I'm not the person dragging this out for several pages now

It's childish
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Mar 31 2024 05:50am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 31 2024 12:49pm)
I said that 31K casualties (reported by Zelensky) is laughable

I'm not the person dragging this out for several pages now

It's childish


So just to be clear, you don't disagree with this statement: "The only official numbers of dead soldiers come from Ukraine"?

Simple yes or no will do! :)
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 31 2024 11:49am)
I said that 31K casualties (reported by Zelensky) is laughable

I'm not the person dragging this out for several pages now

It's childish


This is a gaming site, for (grown up) children. your official statement that this is childish is accepted.
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Mar 31 2024 05:53am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 31 2024 01:43pm)
^ownyaah to be honest I still side with Hobbiks here on the basis that he was trying to catch Djunior out and Djunior's argument was not sound. While Russia could also release "Official" estimates of Ukrainian dead, this was not Djunior's argument and there are issues with this rebuttal. I feel its a thought exercise / debate, on balance, I still agree with Hobbiks.

no big deal. I dont mind being a contrarian here.

^Djunior i once played a game in school, where two individuals sat beside each other and each had to ask the other a question. as soon as one student paused he was assigned to have lost and would be replaced by another student. It was an exercise to see who was the best student for thinking on the fly. When it was my turn I was asked "why" and my response was "why not". my opponent froze and then had a mickey fit after being asked to leave because he said my question was invalid. I am going to show my evil streak now:

you lost hobbiks won, build a bridge!

hobbiks 1
djunior 0

hobbiks for president
djunior, could do better

if there is any other way to infuriate you, let me know!


We're discussing the Ukraine / Russia conflict

If you have to resort to childish word games that probably means you're out of arguments or it's downright trolling

That applies to Hobbiks of course, just weird you support this shit

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Mar 31 2024 06:00am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 31 2024 11:53am)
We're discussing the Ukraine / Russia conflict

If you have to resort to childish word games that probably means you're out of arguments or it's downright trolling

That applies to Hobbiks of course, just weird you support this shit


i dont support it, I am saying your response to his logic was flawed. no big deal on this djunior you know what my overarching position is.
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Mar 31 2024 06:10am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 31 2024 02:00pm)
i dont support it, I am saying your response to his logic was flawed. no big deal on this djunior you know what my overarching position is.


Just saying, he's doing this for a reason (to try undermine my position) and I won't let him

There would be some weird follow-up question or statement

My position is clear --> I said the 31K number is laughable and that's my simple opinion whether he likes it or not


Imagine everyone doing this for pages on end it's definitely not the way forward in this topic.


edit: And I even agreed the numbers came from Ukraine :rofl:

This post was edited by Djunior on Mar 31 2024 06:11am
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 31 2024 12:10pm)
Just saying, he's doing this for a reason (to try undermine my position) and I won't let him

There would be some weird follow-up question or statement

My position is clear --> I said the 31K number is laughable and that's my simple opinion whether he likes it or not


Imagine everyone doing this for pages on end it's definitely not the way forward in this topic.


edit: And I even agreed the numbers came from Ukraine :rofl:


ok well i might tease you with the same question in 1 years time, in the new topic, when this one is full.
just because.
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