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Mar 30 2024 07:56pm
The front is frozen bros....

Russia recently deployed an ODAB-1500 "unfreezing the front" bomb near Velyka Pysarivka in the Sumy region.

These "unfreezing the front bombs" are a thermobaric (fuel-air) bomb. They don't use an oxidizing agent and instead these are pure fuel which mixes into the air using the air itself as the oxidizer. These are actually known as "trench clearers" and are devastating to anything caught in the blast radius. This marks the third(ish) time it's been used but this time a drone recorded the footage. If Russia starts using these on the regular it's freaking goodnight.

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Mar 30 2024 09:31pm
Todays is the day of Presidential elections in democratic Ukraine. Let's see who will win.
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Mar 31 2024 01:11am
Quote (Norlander @ Mar 31 2024 04:31am)
Todays is the day of Presidential elections in democratic Ukraine. Let's see who will win.


Could be worse. Could be a rigged election instead, that would be really terrible.
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Mar 31 2024 01:15am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 29 2024 06:36pm)
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"The official Ukrainian statistics" and "Western media" lol

Ukrainian casualty numbers are regarded secret and Zelensky saying 31K is laughable.

Ukraine is severely outmatched by Russia when it comes to artillery and aviation and guess what, most reported casualties result from artillery and aviation strikes.

Not to mention the Ukrainians ran into a brick wall head first for months at a time last summer. Who believes the garbage that Zelensky spouts is delusional.


That said, people that blindly suck up disinformation provided by the Ukrainian fuhrer are funny :thumbsup:


So just to be clear: You believe that western media has reported on Ukrainian casualties? What are you angry about then? Russian media doesn't report on Ukrainian deaths enough?

"Ukrainian casualty numbers are regarded secret and Zelensky saying 31K is laughable." - Yes. If you actually read what people type you would understand that I think that too. You're beating a dead horse because you can't or wont read.

"Ukraine is severely outmatched by Russia when it comes to artillery and aviation and guess what, most reported casualties result from artillery and aviation strikes" - Questions nobody has asked for 200 thanks.

"That said, people that blindly suck up disinformation provided by the Ukrainian fuhrer are funny" - Which to my knowledge is nobody in this thread. Lots of people sucking off RT and Putin though, blindly reposting actual state actors information lol. Could never be me, what a wasteful existence. Come to think of it, the only person I've seen who has uncritically cited western sources is you, quoting unfounded numbers by Ursula Van der Leyen lmfao.
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Mar 31 2024 01:17am
Quote (ownyaah @ Mar 29 2024 06:29pm)
They are the closest to the real number without a doubt.


Thats a really cool opinion, but that is not what is being discussed here. Again, if you want to believe that number then nobody is stopping you, but to say its verified or scoff at the fact that it's literally information taken from fucking VK is just dishonest. I personally would take it with a big pinch of salt, just like i would Zelenskys figure.
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Mar 31 2024 01:20am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 29 2024 08:26pm)
^hobbiiks ^Gala ^Ashirgo



Here is a video from 8 years ago (2016) outlining the road to war - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
The Ukraine Position in 2019 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xNHmHpERH8
Here is a debate from 2023 challenging the position set out in the above 2016 video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNMOEQ0248
Here is another video again from 2023 challenging the Meirscheimer position - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlB-pRqdyBg&t=591s

Understand I am not giving you one position, I am giving you different views, and you can choose to delve into some of the points made, and for you to make up your own minds. As most regulars are aware I subscribe to the meirsheimer position. I disagree with the views challenging that position.


If i watch all of these and take notes will you change your position if i find something that opposes your worldview? After all, these are your sources, provided by you, so if these argue something differing to your opinion you should be willing to change your mind correct?
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Mar 31 2024 01:42am
Quote (Hobbiks @ Mar 31 2024 09:15am)
So just to be clear: You believe that western media has reported on Ukrainian casualties? What are you angry about then? Russian media doesn't report on Ukrainian deaths enough?

"Ukrainian casualty numbers are regarded secret and Zelensky saying 31K is laughable." - Yes. If you actually read what people type you would understand that I think that too. You're beating a dead horse because you can't or wont read.

"Ukraine is severely outmatched by Russia when it comes to artillery and aviation and guess what, most reported casualties result from artillery and aviation strikes" - Questions nobody has asked for 200 thanks.

"That said, people that blindly suck up disinformation provided by the Ukrainian fuhrer are funny" - Which to my knowledge is nobody in this thread. Lots of people sucking off RT and Putin though, blindly reposting actual state actors information lol. Could never be me, what a wasteful existence. Come to think of it, the only person I've seen who has uncritically cited western sources is you, quoting unfounded numbers by Ursula Van der Leyen lmfao.


This is what was said

Quote (Hobbiks @ Mar 29 2024 04:03pm)
The only official numbers of dead soldiers come from Ukraine


Quote (Djunior @ Mar 29 2024 04:08pm)
31K killed according to the fuhrer himself

And you bought it


ROFL

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Mar 31 2024 01:43am
Quote (Norlander @ Mar 31 2024 05:31am)
Todays is the day of Presidential elections in democratic Ukraine. Let's see who will win.


I heard that the fuhrer doesn't like elections
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Mar 31 2024 02:02am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 31 2024 08:42am)
This is what was said





ROFL


This is correct. I'm at this point fairly certain you can't read. I'll repeat: The only official numbers of dead soldiers come from Ukraine.

Tell me Djunior, what do you think that last statement means? Im very curious how your brain interpretes what i said since you seem to think it's some sort of slam dunk. Again, you're so biased that you don't even seem to understand when other people agree with you.
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Mar 31 2024 02:37am
Quote (Hobbiks @ 31 Mar 2024 10:02)
This is correct. I'm at this point fairly certain you can't read. I'll repeat: The only official numbers of dead soldiers come from Ukraine.

Tell me Djunior, what do you think that last statement means? Im very curious how your brain interpretes what i said since you seem to think it's some sort of slam dunk. Again, you're so biased that you don't even seem to understand when other people agree with you.


What’s the official number from Russia?
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