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Mar 30 2024 05:09am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 30 2024 06:08pm)
China is one of America's trade partners. probably not for long though.


honestly i think thats a good thing. this decoupling has to happen.

we have to bring back manufacturing and jobs back home.

sure prices have to go up but there's more jobs going around. folks wont mind paying more for goods made at home if they get good jobs making them.

the one that suffers are all the traders global corporates...boohoo.
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Quote (jianfish @ Mar 30 2024 11:07am)
its confusing, i always hear the russian saying that NATO has already sent troops and thats the reason why their boys are getting slaughtered there.

so how can france and poland be the first?


while the US, England and France have troops in Ukraine they are there in a covert fashion, and officially they are only observers, they have not declared war on Russia and they dont have regiments there.

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honestly i think thats a good thing. this decoupling has to happen.

we have to bring back manufacturing and jobs back home.

sure prices have to go up but there's more jobs going around. folks wont mind paying more for goods made at home if they get good jobs making them.

the one that suffers are all the traders global corporates...boohoo.


trade relations are a failsafe against war. when you have no relations with another country it is more likely you will go to war. Your opinion related to prices is misguided as when you close down the global trade routes everything from weapons to milk and bread goes up in price. This is why in the west we have been in a depressed market and this trend is set to continue for the rest of the decade. While you may be rich and well off, most people in the world are not, and they are the ones that have to scrape to survive, which is difficult, when there are trade barriers / limited international trade. i.e. de-globalization.

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while the US, England and France have troops in Ukraine they are there in a covert fashion, and officially they are only observers, they have not declared war on Russia and they dont have regiments there.


and Russia ... :banana: :blush: :lol: Special operation !

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 30 2024 11:13am)
and Russia ... :banana: :blush: :lol: Special operation !


We posted a few days ago that Russia had stated that the conflict in Ukraine is a defacto war with the west. But yes, from 2014 to 2022 russia would have supported eastern ukraine, to a degree (not as much as the US supported Ukraine in this time period of course) just like how these western countries are now actively supporting Ukraine, with forces, in ukraine.

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We posted a few days ago that Russia had stated that the conflict in Ukraine is a defacto war with the west. But yes, from 2014 to 2022 russia would have supported eastern ukraine, to a degree (not as much as the US supported Ukraine in this time period of course) just like how these western countries are now actively supporting Ukraine, with forces, in ukraine.


Hybride warfare toward Europe since like 10+ years, at least, is already a declaration of war. Putin's Russia is the only agressor here.
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Hybride warfare toward Europe since like 10+ years, at least, is already a declaration of war. Putin's Russia is the only agressor here.


right and algeria deciding to form a military alliance with China would not cause a problem for france.
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right and algeria deciding to form a military alliance with China would not cause a problem for france.


"Alliance" with China (ccp gov, it's not a democracy) is a problem for any human being. Do not try a diversion.

Btw CCP's China is also an actor, along with Putin's Russia, into this Hybride warfare, agression, toward Europe.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 30 2024 11:42am)
"Alliance" with China (ccp gov, it's not a democracy) is a problem for any human being. Do not try a diversion.

Btw CCP's China is also an actor, along with Putin's Russia, into this Hybride warfare, agression, toward Europe.


let me rephrase then, an enemy of france forming a military alliance with a country close to france, and then pointing its nuclear weapons at france.
america putting nuclear weapons in turkey, or russia putting nuclear weapons in cuba? history has formed its own view of these events but they are historically construed as aggressive acts.
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let me rephrase then, an enemy of france forming a military alliance with a country close to france, and then pointing its nuclear weapons at france.
america putting nuclear weapons in turkey, or russia putting nuclear weapons in cuba? history has formed its own view of these events but they are historically construed as aggressive acts.


Im talking about the Hybrid agression done by Russia and more recently China toward Europe so the only thing you can do is to strech and distract on something totally irreal and unrelated, always adding a pinch of "U.S" on it, like usual looool.

And you know why they do that ? Because people, their own people, could dare to expect some kind of minimal freedom. Collaborator.

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Hybride warfare toward Europe since like 10+ years, at least, is already a declaration of war. Putin's Russia is the only agressor here.


NATO expansion East for over 2 decades

Reaping what you sowed
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