Quote (Djunior @ Mar 21 2024 04:53pm)
The sources 100% relate to the discussion at hand
You replied to THIS and I provided the sources -->
You can find multiple different sources discussing the issues I presented namely
1) Western countries torpedoing the peace negotiations
2) Zelensky signing law that forbids negotiations as long as Putin is president
3) Western countries not recognizing the elections
Your reaction to one of the sources that I presented is childish and secondly breaks forum rules. Imagine being this immature, lol
You're mad (once again) because PARD hurt your feelings. Grow up man
1) There is no "torpedoing" of anything. Putin asked for a piece of land and Ukraine said no and decided to fight back instead. Again, the negotiation was never going to be accepted, because it was insane. By refusing to answer my analogous question you have already accepted how retarded it would be for a sovereign nation to give up land in negotiation, because your sovereignity might be encroached upon again (by the same guy who says he has a historical claim to your sovereign nation).
2) Nobody denies this and it's not controversial at all. It's controversial if you know nothing about the other nations of the world, because this is pretty commonplace.
3) I don't care what Lichtenstein thinks and neither does Putin, who won the election and kept it moving. It doesn't matter if Putin wins or loses, because he is an autocratic leader. The only people who are interested in ratifying the election or making the election look democratic are Russians and Russophiles.
"Your reaction to one of the sources that I presented is childish and secondly breaks forum rules" - Oh golly me, not forum rules. My reaction was that you, as you usually do, say a bunch of truthisms, mix it with very strange framing and then send sources or screenshots that don't at all back up what you are saying.
Europeanconservative is reporting that Johnson told Zelensky something. If that is "torpedoing" then literally any negotiations between superpowers (since it includes multiple actors and states) will be torpedoing. The article even states that Russia was trying to "press Ukraine". So please tell me: Is it okay to press a country? If it is then you agree that Johnson should be free to press Ukraine. If you do not then according to you own article, Russia pressed a sovereign state and you disagree with Russia for doing so.
The Reuters source discusses Zelenskys choice not to allow negotiations with Russia, which is not unique to Ukraine and incredibly commonplace, even outside of wartime. Again, it's just a truthism that you are framing as something extraordinary. Nobody denies this, your framing is just dishonest and honestly very desperate.
The countries in question denounce Russias election. They explain in that France 24 article exactly why they do so: It doesn't meet the standards in the west. This changes nothing. It's like saying "The elections in France arent legitimate because they don't reflect democracy in Guatemala". You're legitimately upset about countries opinions (for some reason, again, I don't know why you're so defensive about this) on another countrys elections. The election results could be 100% factual and it would still not meet the criteria for democracy in most western nations.
If i kick in the door of your small appartment and refuse to leave until you give me the entire hallway do you
A ) Give me the hallway and hope the insane person who just kicked in your door wont take more of your appartment or
B ) Fight back because it's your appartment?
This post was edited by Hobbiks on Mar 21 2024 10:07am