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We can discuss all day long ...In the long run some want to believe they or their country is doing the right thing always.. And some just don't give a shit anymore because all country rulers most likely lie about everything ... Be a good patriot no matter the genocide your country is doing at the time.. And keep spreading that good propaganda you wish to believe in.. :thumbsup:
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Macron is at the forefront of a nascent proposal by a handful of NATO nations to discuss sending allied forces into Ukraine in training and advisory roles, though not as combat troops. The Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, as well as Poland, have expressed support of Paris' position, though large NATO states like the U.S. and Germany are opposed.

Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

It will thus become a legitimate priority target for attacks by the Russian armed forces," the spy chief said. "This means that it will suffer the fate of all the French who have ever come to the Russian world with a sword."

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ally-sixty-thousand-soldiers-ukraine-general-france-macron-1881216
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Quote (zorzin @ Mar 20 2024 04:19pm)
Macron is at the forefront of a nascent proposal by a handful of NATO nations to discuss sending allied forces into Ukraine in training and advisory roles, though not as combat troops. The Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, as well as Poland, have expressed support of Paris' position, though large NATO states like the U.S. and Germany are opposed.

Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

It will thus become a legitimate priority target for attacks by the Russian armed forces," the spy chief said. "This means that it will suffer the fate of all the French who have ever come to the Russian world with a sword."

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ally-sixty-thousand-soldiers-ukraine-general-france-macron-1881216


Bluff

French have literally nothing to gain from this and a lot to lose.
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Mar 20 2024 02:47pm
Quote (zorzin @ Mar 20 2024 09:19pm)
Macron is at the forefront of a nascent proposal by a handful of NATO nations to discuss sending allied forces into Ukraine in training and advisory roles, though not as combat troops. The Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, as well as Poland, have expressed support of Paris' position, though large NATO states like the U.S. and Germany are opposed.

Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

It will thus become a legitimate priority target for attacks by the Russian armed forces," the spy chief said. "This means that it will suffer the fate of all the French who have ever come to the Russian world with a sword."

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ally-sixty-thousand-soldiers-ukraine-general-france-macron-1881216


These are professional soldiers, not meatcube mobiks

There is no consensus today to send them, officially.
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Quote (zorzin @ Mar 20 2024 08:19pm)
Macron is at the forefront of a nascent proposal by a handful of NATO nations to discuss sending allied forces into Ukraine in training and advisory roles, though not as combat troops. The Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, as well as Poland, have expressed support of Paris' position, though large NATO states like the U.S. and Germany are opposed.

Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

It will thus become a legitimate priority target for attacks by the Russian armed forces," the spy chief said. "This means that it will suffer the fate of all the French who have ever come to the Russian world with a sword."

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ally-sixty-thousand-soldiers-ukraine-general-france-macron-1881216


The whole of NATO has already been defeated in Ukraine. Russians are now fighting Kane and the brotherhood of NOD.
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Mar 20 2024 03:30pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 20 2024 04:47pm)
These are professional soldiers, not meatcube mobiks

There is no consensus today to send them, officially.


Russian soldiers are better trained than Americans at this point. You can substitute fancy western tech for training but not for long. There's a reason why uncle sam wanted to be in a war fighting rice farmers/goat herders every 8 years; practice makes perfect and only the ukkies/ruskies are competent in modern warfare, every other army is just larping
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Quote (zorzin @ Mar 20 2024 09:30pm)
Russian soldiers are better trained than Americans at this point. You can substitute fancy western tech for training but not for long. There's a reason why uncle sam wanted to be in a war fighting rice farmers/goat herders every 8 years; practice makes perfect and only the ukkies/ruskies are competent in modern warfare, every other army is just larping


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Quote (zorzin @ Mar 20 2024 10:30pm)
Russian soldiers are better trained than Americans at this point. You can substitute fancy western tech for training but not for long. There's a reason why uncle sam wanted to be in a war fighting rice farmers/goat herders every 8 years; practice makes perfect and only the ukkies/ruskies are competent in modern warfare, every other army is just larping


Sur french soldiers never training

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 20 2024 06:21pm)
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You've got a pretty good grasp of the conflict, so who do you believe has more relevant training than russia/Ukraine? You can Google what training the Ukrainians/russians recieve while being rotated and in theater operations,it's all based on the new realities of war (especially EW). So not only do both countries have battle hardened troops but they also have the most up to date training based on learned experiences from the war, which is right out of the American MIC playbook
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French soldiers are very good at surrendering and they are always training on how to properly wave a white flag.

But Ukraine did just receive 20 leopard 2a4s (from spain), so maybe the French can covertly use those for another game of capture the flag
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