The Kiev feint?

Thats a good one

Neither a feint, nor a serious offensive. Lets be real, 3.5+ million capital city, disregarding Chernihiv etc needed 300-400k+ soldiers and massive bombardment.

Mostly an operation banking on forcing the other side to negotiate --> and an easy fix. My opinion has always been that, you shouldn´t go to war without a plan B, C and D.

Some will say it was to create an opening in the south, sure, but that doesn´t explain logistics getting extended and unsustained at Mykolaiv.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 19 2024 10:21am

I'd argue it was a very serious offensive. Just naively planned and executed. We all heard the level of secrecy was such that troops didn't even realise they were doing anything other than training in Belarus.

If they secured a land bridge you can bet they would go all out to then attack Kiev; This was merely the first stage which failed embarrassingly.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 19 2024 10:21am

They did secure plenty of area, i just think putin expected them to yield and never expected that his bluff would be called. He expected a repeat georgia.

I find it hard to call it a serious offensive, due to lack of troops + bombardment.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 19 2024 10:22am

"feint" "bluff"

Seeking to obscure the failure, is not too honest of an assessment in my opinion.

I think you are too blinded to understand my point, i am saying putin should be put to death for using a childish bluff as strategic war tactic

The moment negotations failed, any man worth his salt would´ve put 3-5million shells, 1-2k long range missiles into kiev city before a 300-500k ruthless attack as plan "B", not "pull out", killing anything and everything that decided to stay, because this is how wars are faught. Not pull out and keep an undermanned frontline for 12 months.

Putin should be given his second execution by firing squad for sending paratroopers around mykolaiv without the logistics and manpower (another 200-300k+) that push into odessa.

This was a war that needed 500-800k man, not 180k.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 19 2024 10:30am

You could read a bit of military history and understand that taking a city of 3million with 50k troops is not reality. I don’t know though, maybe you really do think Russians are that dumb to not know this, hence why you keep continually being wrong about this war on so many levels.

Western people are so caught up with putin being the devil, they fail to realise he is a cuck

Instead of attacking me you could understand a bit of recent history and realise the 50k troops were tasked with establishing a land bridge in the greater Kiev area. They failed.
Nobody is saying 50k troops were meant to take and hold Kiev.

Don't understand why its such a chip on your shoulder that the Russians were forced to withdraw from Hostomel.

"As of 27 February 2022, the airport remained under Russian control as clashes began to shift to the towns of Bucha and Irpin to the south,[58] where Ukrainian forces claimed to have halted the Russian advances, contesting Russian forces in Hostomel amid intense fighting.[59][60][61][62] On 27 February, the Security Service of Ukraine released an alleged intercepted conversation of Russian forces in Hostomel reporting casualties and requesting to be evacuated.[63][64] On the same day, Ukrainian forces bombarded the airport with artillery, and claimed to have destroyed Russian equipment, vehicles, and personnel.[65][66][67] The next day, a Russian military convoy stretching 40 miles (64 km) arrived at the airport in preparation for an assault on Kyiv.[68][69]

Over the next few weeks, the airport was partially repaired,[1] but it was not put to use as an airstrip. The airport mainly served as a forward operating base, housing equipment and troops.[1][11]

As of 28 March 2022, satellite imagery showed no Russian forces inside the airport.[70] On 29 March, Russian Deputy Minister of Defense Alexander Fomin announced a withdrawal of Russian forces from the Kyiv area,[71] including the abandonment of Hostomel Airport.[72]

By 2 April, Ukrainian forces had regained control of the airport following a large-scale Russian withdrawal along the Kyiv axis.[73]In their hasty retreat, Russian troops destroyed much of their own equipment, while other materiel was captured intact by the Ukrainians. In addition, other Russian equipment had been destroyed by Ukrainian artillery strikes before the withdrawal. Overall, Russia lost at least seven armoured fighting vehicles, 23 infantry fighting vehicles, three armoured personnel carriers, one anti-aircraft gun, two field artillery pieces, three helicopters, as well as 67 trucks, vehicles and jeeps at Antonov Airport.[21]"

Thats one expensive feint. Or it really wasn't a feint at all.



Interesting way to generalise well over a billion people.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 19 2024 10:36am

wtf r u on about, the 50-70k was the entire force, what other force was gonna come? The one that was conscripted almost 12 months later and needed to undergo 3-6 months training? They already had a massive land bridge from both sides of kiev. Why is every discussion with you complete shit?

This post was edited by ownyaah on Mar 19 2024 10:38am