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Jul 17 2021 05:33am
Quote (fender @ Jul 17 2021 10:56am)


why was he on a ventilator?
in early days of covid in europe, italy was a hotspot and they were putting everyone on ventilators. most people died while being on them.
doctors later apologized to the families of the ones that died and they said that in that early stage of pandemic they had to try anything hoping to do the right thing, but ventilators were not one of them.
shortly after, ventilators were completely stopped being used in italy and many other european countries.

only time they would put u on one however, is if you're asthmatic person or have lung cancer, and if you start literally dying due to shortage of oxygen income in ur lungs caused by covid.
but ventilator is not used to stop covid lmao, it's used to do the breathing for you cos your lungs are trashed.

have you seen autopsy of people that died on ventilators?
their lungs look like u threw them in an oven on 300 for half an hour

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Jul 17 2021 05:34am
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Jul 17 2021 05:37am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 17 2021 04:27am)
but that's what you said though, don't try to deny it.

you said we all need vaccines cos otherwise we're putting ur vaccinated grandpa in danger.
which means you're agreeing to a fact that vaccines dont work.


quote me 1 false information I put in this topic.
400+ pages, I posted quite a bit of info.
go nutts, show me the fake news I posted, I'll gladly discuss any of it.

you see, unlike you, I stand my ground and my beliefs. I post sources to my claims and try to have a civilized discussion.
some of my sources are podcasts of biologists, virologists, different scientists that discuss these topics on various podcasts such as Lex Fridman's, cos mainstream media refuses to discuss it.
you're arguing with antivax people, and disagreeing with provax people. you're basically standing all alone in here pal, but as I said, post any fake news / sources I threw in 400 pages.
shouldn't be hard to find them as you seem confident


that used to be the reason to get vaccinated. it was to protect some one from the un-vaccinated. now a day a person gets vaccinated and the un vaccinated kills them. its pretty wonky stuff.
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they want ev1 jabbed with this stuff before even the dim get a chance to figure it out
Proof The Covid Vaccine Is A Killer
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CvK5cMVBlYwx/
if you research the animal trials chit gona hit the fan with flu season and that starts in about 4 months

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jul 17 2021 05:55am
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Jul 17 2021 06:54am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 16 2021 11:43pm)
The only definitive thing you've proven is that he gave money to development of vaccines in December, after the formulations were already figured out, and before that owned stock in Pfizer.

You haven't met your burden of proof. I'm making you do your homework by asking questions. You haven't proven your claim, that Gates was involved in the development of the vaccines. And even so, "giving money to people so they develop it faster" is hardly something damning, or really concerning in any way. If you want to get on the conspiracies of being microchipped or whatever then you're going to have an even higher bar to clear.


How have I not met my burden of proof? Because I didn't have a wiretap on Mr. Gates' phone? Should I dig into his email history and find where he may have been communicating with the companies responsible for developing the vaccine? If you think that they just through $1,750,000,000 at the efforts and go back to making burgers on the grill, you're once again being willfully ignorant. You don't make people do homework on something you also have no clue about. You refuse to Google it, and won't believe those who do. Even when it comes from the Gates' foundation itself. Your level of complacency is toxic. Ignorance is bliss.

I'm not pushing conspiracies about microchips, nanobots, or whatever else fuckery you might have. There are two types of people who believe that you shouldn't be forced to get vaccinated. One of them thinks that their nose hairs will start sending signals to the mothership. The other thinks that it's a push for money, isn't as effective as the manufacturer's claimed, and believes that you shouldn't need to take any medication you don't want to. I really just wanted you to open your eyes and do your own research. If you're going to continuously ask someone for the same thing over and over, you better know whether or not it exists.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Jul 16 2021 11:50pm)
Let’s give you 100 benefit of the doubt. Gates funded vaccines. Does that make them bad? Can you prove or feel there is I’ll intent? Maybe for sake of argument he is doing something he thinks will help and make money? The “Gates is bad” isn’t proven in my mind


In no way shape or form, have I stated any ill intentions of Bill Gates. Thor knows this, but refuses to accept that he was wrong in stating Bill Gates did not fund or "get involved" in any vaccination development. So at least we're now to the point that the you both are accepting that Bill Gates has, is, and will continue to fund vaccines. There's no benefit of the doubt to be given. If you refuse to read a single paragraph from an article, you're being willfully ignorant.


Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 17 2021 12:40am)
The fact that so many people repeat the "why are you worried if you're vaxed" line just shows how crap our schools are at teaching basic science.


Why does this go against basic science, or any science at all really? I would say that it directly supports the science. Scientists and certain manufacturers have claimed previously that their vaccines are nearly 100% effective at preventing severe illness. That's the science.

If you're vaccinated, why are you worried about someone who is not? It's really a pretty genuine question that you cannot answer it seems.

I find it relatively frustrating that you have to stoop to a level of calling people either "uneducated" or just plain stupid because they're asking a question you cannot answer, or refuse to answer. It's a simple one to answer. Why are you worried? It's taken me more time to write this post than it should take you to answer that questions.

Edit: I feel that if both of you could just drop your political views and assumptions from your thoughts and attempted debates, this would likely go a bit further. The best way to have a good debate is to both answer and ask a question, whether it be a different question or a rebuttal to the question asked. For the record, theCrossbones , I stated many pages back to "Follow the money." So yes
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Maybe for sake of argument he is doing something he thinks will help and make money?


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Jul 17 2021 09:54am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 17 2021 07:33am)
why was he on a ventilator?
in early days of covid in europe, italy was a hotspot and they were putting everyone on ventilators. most people died while being on them.
doctors later apologized to the families of the ones that died and they said that in that early stage of pandemic they had to try anything hoping to do the right thing, but ventilators were not one of them.
shortly after, ventilators were completely stopped being used in italy and many other european countries.

only time they would put u on one however, is if you're asthmatic person or have lung cancer, and if you start literally dying due to shortage of oxygen income in ur lungs caused by covid.
but ventilator is not used to stop covid lmao, it's used to do the breathing for you cos your lungs are trashed.

have you seen autopsy of people that died on ventilators?
their lungs look like u threw them in an oven on 300 for half an hour


Covid trashes your lungs no? What alternative is there to a ventilator?
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Jul 17 2021 10:08am
pretty much EXACTLY as predicted, republican lawmakers are trying to blame their failing covid policies on immigrants and minorities:

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Jul 17 2021 10:18am
what failed policies would that be, life goes on and none of the corona karen predictions became a reality

Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 17 2021 01:33pm)
why was he on a ventilator?
in early days of covid in europe, italy was a hotspot and they were putting everyone on ventilators. most people died while being on them.
doctors later apologized to the families of the ones that died and they said that in that early stage of pandemic they had to try anything hoping to do the right thing, but ventilators were not one of them.
shortly after, ventilators were completely stopped being used in italy and many other european countries.

only time they would put u on one however, is if you're asthmatic person or have lung cancer, and if you start literally dying due to shortage of oxygen income in ur lungs caused by covid.
but ventilator is not used to stop covid lmao, it's used to do the breathing for you cos your lungs are trashed.

have you seen autopsy of people that died on ventilators?
their lungs look like u threw them in an oven on 300 for half an hour


facts, thousands of people literally got killed by this failed treatment
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Jul 17 2021 10:32am
Quote (fender @ 17 Jul 2021 18:08)
pretty much EXACTLY as predicted, republican lawmakers are trying to blame their failing covid policies on immigrants and minorities:

https://i.imgur.com/u79cqlf.jpeg


If covid rates were spiking in South Texas specifically, beyond the level of rise seen in other parts of Texas with comparable vaccination rates, then it could indeed be caused by the influx of unvetted foreigners across the southern border.

Now, I seriously doubt that Ted Cruz did such an in-depth look at the data before spitting out his tweet - but neither did you or the guy who reflexively dismissed the theory on twitter.

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Jul 17 2021 10:39am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 17 2021 04:54pm)
Covid trashes your lungs no? What alternative is there to a ventilator?


it can affect your lungs, but doesn't have to.
as it was said many times before, it affects different people differently.
it CAN affect your heart, your nerves, your lungs, your muscles etc. that's why many people that got covid had different symptoms, such as losing taste, losing smell, having pain in muscles, pain in bones, blurred vision, lack of breath. but rarely ever did anyone have more than 1-2 symptoms.
lungs are one of the symptoms and putting people on ventilators just cos they tested positive is lunacy. you probably know, same as me, many people that were asymptomatic. in early covid stages whoever was asymptomatic but positive, would end up on ventilators and sometimes dead.

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Jul 17 2021 11:01am
the climate change denier is also a covidiot. imagine my shock...
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Jul 17 2021 11:05am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 17 2021 11:39am)
it can affect your lungs, but doesn't have to.
as it was said many times before, it affects different people differently.
it CAN affect your heart, your nerves, your lungs, your muscles etc. that's why many people that got covid had different symptoms, such as losing taste, losing smell, having pain in muscles, pain in bones, blurred vision, lack of breath. but rarely ever did anyone have more than 1-2 symptoms.
lungs are one of the symptoms and putting people on ventilators just cos they tested positive is lunacy. you probably know, same as me, many people that were asymptomatic. in early covid stages whoever was asymptomatic but positive, would end up on ventilators and sometimes dead.


Do you really think theyre putting people on ventilators just because they test positive?
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