Well, it depends on if the boss is important for the functioning of the team/department. If the team can easily cover for the lack of the boss' competence, it might prefer the nice guy. Similarly, it might make a difference exactly how much of an asshole the asshole boss is. If he's really completely insufferable...

But we're getting offtopic.

I cant imagine working at a place where a boss isnt important. if they arent important why are they making more money than me, or if they arent making more money why am i answering to them.

as to the topic, short of new info its basically ping pong.

I've never been at a workplace where having an incompetent boss didn't cause significant issues. If your boss can be incompetent and the division still runs fine, the prescription isn't to keep the nice boss, it's to get a boss that can improve performance even further in other ways that aren't covered by the team's expertise.

A boss that doesn't improve performance in some way is a wasted position.



This is a very limited perspective, and I think it's fundamentally flawed.

A president's job is not only to implement conservative or liberal policy (arguably that's a minimal part of the job since policy positions as I believe are being referenced are mostly done by laws through congress), as we see now in a state of emergency. It's to set the national agenda and maintain the normal operations of dozens of departments. There is a minimal level of competence that needs to be held or you get the situation we're in now, where national emergencies are poorly handled, our soft power has all but evaporated, our military positions are at significant risk due to lack of cooperation by our allies, etc. etc. Having that minimal level of competence ensures that certain positions that are good for the country overall independent of partisan position are maintained.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 15 2020 01:44pm

America duffman, America.

the problem with that analogy is that "knows his shit" couldn't be further from the truth in regards to the draftdodging cult leader and governing. the only people who could justifiably claim that are those that directly benefit from his nepotism and favouritism, and that's a very small group.

I fundamentally disagree with your notion that the president is first and foremost the "bureaucrat in chief" with minimal influence on policy and the partisan power balance of the country.

His choice of cabinet members determines the priorities and agenda of all those government agencies and departments.
His judicial picks influence the ideological tint of the country for decades to come.
The national agenda that he sets is the main force driving Congress to legislative action.
He can and should grease negotiations between the chambers of Congress, iron out compromises and red lines.
He is the undisputed leader of his party and thus shapes its platform, which often times persists long after he is gone.
He represents the country on the international stage and and has a huge amount of wiggle room on foreign policy.
Starting or avoiding war is largely his prerogative.


It is true that running an administration which is a well-oiled machine is another fundamental part of a president's job description, and it's probably the area where Trump has failed the most. But for the reasons outlined above, I dont think that this aspect of the presidency is its most important one.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 15 2020 02:06pm

you’re a net drain on society so no one cares. Go back to licking petri-dishes and stop hurting animals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

It's used constantly on this forum.

When I first started working with mice I was worried they would be like rats. Rats are cute and have personalities, and get attached to their caretakers and each other.

I was quickly shown that mice aren't like that.

Mice are basically little clones of each other with no discernible personality and no real familial attachment. They will abandon their pups at the first nudge and are little assholes. I have no remorse murdering them by the cage full when my use of them is finished.

I miss working with rats because they had more personality, even if they were harder to experiment on for the same reason.



God I wish I knew this had a name earlier in life. I used to have some friends in college who did this kind of thing all the time and it was super fucking annoying.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 15 2020 03:57pm

I learned the term a couple weeks ago from Jonah Goldberg, lol.