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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 6 2017 04:05am)
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Back to NK i have a remark, maybe some people have balistic knowledge here:

Thinking about the next missile test NK could do: im not sure they could go above 2800 kilometers.

https://www.fxsolver.com/solve/

Since at 2800 km the weight is already divided by more than 2.

What i means is next test may land the missile in pacific ocean ?


http://i.imgur.com/irfHByM.png

the maximum height obtainable will show a potential energy of their launch but long range ballistics is very complicated when you have to consider things like the rotation of the earth, the ballistic coefficient, and many other factors. The maximum distance of their missiles is not easily determinable off the information in the picture.
I don't think North Korea will attack the USA even if they could.

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North korea is less of a threat to the world than walmart bags


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Options are running out we may have ourselves going against Russia and China at some point. I'll be damned to sit here after my grandfather fought in the Korean War to let this unstable person threaten us with nuclear annihilation. Time for some shock & awe 2.0 except this time they've got more than skud missiles

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Good point. A mad, Western hating dictator with intercontinental nukes is far less dangerous than Walmart bags.
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Options are running out we may have ourselves going against Russia and China at some point. I'll be damned to sit here after my grandfather fought in the Korean War to let this unstable person threaten us with nuclear annihilation. Time for some shock & awe 2.0 except this time they've got more than skud missiles


lol.

First of all Russia is a second world nation barely holding itself together, its fractures and its people are poor.

Russia has been under sanctions in certain areas for a while, which will probably change soon, because trump and putin are twitter pals.

China, which is still a third world country by most standards, is less of a threat than north Korea and russia. First lets look at them financially;

Chinas #1 source of income is America by a large margin.
Chinads #2 source of income is China.

This means if china declares war on America, they lose there #1 source of income, and have to change their secondary source of income as expenditures to wage a war against their former #1 source of income.
China could never afford a war with America, they have no way to mobilize that giant army they have.

As long as we remember to avoid the most well known classic blunder in the world, which is ofc never wage a land war with china. -The Princess Bride.


Lets compare some numbers shall we?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/armies.htm

Top 10 most massive land armies in the world.

1 North Korea 1,300,000
2 United States - USA + USMC 1,235,900
3 India 1,150,900
4 United States Army 1,015,000
5 China 850,000
6 Syria 700,000??
7 Israel 633,000
8 Pakistan 550,000
9 South Korea 495,000
10 Russia 415,000




The figures above do not include nukes that are qued for destruction, and america has several thousand in the que, which actually puts america at #1 with most nukes owned. By a lot.



Given all this information, the combined forces/"wealth"(i use the term wealth as loosely as possible here) of Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, and every terrorist group on earth, would not be enough to bring America down.

The only thing that will destroy America is its Social Security system, which is the #1 contributor to the 14Billion deficit we have.

It should also be noted, less then half of American debt is owned by foreign countries, and China only holds about 1 trillion of US debt.

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Also, it is worth stating that the combined savings of all Americans totals at almost 25 trillion which is nearly DOUBLE the debt. (23t of which is in off shores bank accounts)

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lol.

First of all Russia is a second world nation barely holding itself together, its fractures and its people are poor.

Russia has been under sanctions in certain areas for a while, which will probably change soon, because trump and putin are twitter pals.

China, which is still a third world country by most standards, is less of a threat than north Korea and russia. First lets look at them financially;

Chinas #1 source of income is America by a large margin.
Chinads #2 source of income is China.

This means if china declares war on America, they lose there #1 source of income, and have to change their secondary source of income as expenditures to wage a war against their former #1 source of income.
China could never afford a war with America, they have no way to mobilize that giant army they have.

As long as we remember to avoid the most well known classic blunder in the world, which is ofc never wage a land war with china. -The Princess Bride.


Lets compare some numbers shall we?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/armies.htm

Top 10 most massive land armies in the world.

1 North Korea 1,300,000
2 United States - USA + USMC 1,235,900
3 India 1,150,900
4 United States Army 1,015,000
5 China 850,000
6 Syria 700,000??
7 Israel 633,000
8 Pakistan 550,000
9 South Korea 495,000
10 Russia 415,000


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274169260027412480/333278424841977857/chrome_2017-07-08_12-08-20.png

The figures above do not include nukes that are qued for destruction, and america has several thousand in the que, which actually puts america at #1 with most nukes owned. By a lot.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274169260027412480/333279104876937239/chrome_2017-07-08_12-11-07.png

Given all this information, the combined forces/"wealth"(i use the term wealth as loosely as possible here) of Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, and every terrorist group on earth, would not be enough to bring America down.

The only thing that will destroy America is its Social Security system, which is the #1 contributor to the 14Billion deficit we have.

It should also be noted, less then half of the debt is owned by foreign countries, and China only holds about 1 trillion of US debt.


Having more nukes doesn't mean you'd win the war.
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Jul 8 2017 10:24am
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Having more nukes doesn't mean you'd win the war.


Did you not read the entire thing?

America beats every single "enemy" by a ridiculous margin, in nearly every single catagory.

The only catagory American is not #1 in is standing armies, which goes to china, America is #2.

And as stated before, china lacks any way of effectively mobilize said army, which would easly get melted with a nuke, that they could never outrun as a standing army.

Also, America has 3 armies, that land on the top 10 list for strongest / largest standing army.

THREE, thats fucking insane dude.


Russia is not even on some of the lists half of the time.

And Chinas #1 source of income is America, so they could not afford a war with America unless they have some alternative income source, which they do not.

-also this.



This post was edited by Ep0ch on Jul 8 2017 10:30am
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Wal mart bags are a greater threat to america than these countries combined.
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Wal mart bags are a greater threat to america than these countries combined.

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North korea is less of a threat to the world than walmart bags



Instead of spamming this section you better consider that just - 1 - nuke detonated in high altitude can produce an EMP able destroy the power grid of a whole nation like USA (or any other), including all electronic devices that arent protected by a specific shell or in a faraday cage.
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Instead of spamming this section you better consider that just - 1 - nuke detonated in high altitude can produce an EMP able destroy the power grid of a whole nation like USA (or any other), including all electronic devices that arent protected by a specific shell or in a faraday cage.


Thats just not true. Emps are not as dangerous as you think. If they know its comming, no problem. Literally zero damage, unless stupid. And then someone wasted a nuke.


Besides no one is nuking anything. Bet?

Ill buy 10k fg and give it to you if a nuke gets dropped while jsp is active. 100k if it effects america in a destructive capacity.

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