I struggle when you use and three times in the same sentence.

What was your point?

To be fair we were never as committed to the fight as they were. For them Ukraine was the queen, for us another pawn. I don't think it's over yet, and for us a 'mission accomplished' may just be bleeding them enough to degrade them for awhile. What takes a hit is our ability to unilaterally dictate terms to anyone and everyone though. Other bigger powers may be much bolder as a result and tell us to take a walk in the future. The Houthis situation to me is much more embarrassing. A bunch of goat herders can't be stomped out by the greatest navy in the world and co. and Biden and even many of the republicans don't really want to up the ante, which shows how exhausted we are as a power. I read on twitter that they are claiming to have developed much more advanced missiles. Big if true and they start taking down naval assets.


https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/report-claims-yemens-houthis-hypersonic-missile-possibly-raising-108106664#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20group's%20missile%20forces%20have,according%20to%20the%20RIA%20report.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Mar 14 2024 03:41pm

Personally I think it was instigated as a means of drawing the lines for an eventual conflict with China. If you look at how supply chains and alliances have been shifting it seems to me like they are testing the waters with the Ukraine war to see how allies and unaligned countries react. It also has the added benefit of kickstarting arms production and gauging public and international opinion/propaganda methods before actually engaging with China which would be much more risky than funding a proxy war in Europe IMO.

It has pushed Russia towards China but that may have been viewed as inevitable by the US establishment so bleeding Russia for a few years before tangling with China might be preferable given the other benefits it will yield.

The Houthi situation is pretty funny, I think the US is reluctant to get heavily involved in the ME incase something does pop off with China, which is probably why Iran is ratcheting up the pressure on them/Israel. Will be interesting to see how far they will allow it to go.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Mar 14 2024 04:17pm

your 2 years too early. winning is reclaiming all of ukraine including eastern ukraine and crimea. thanks.

Don't understand at all.

Putting "thanks" at the end of a comment is rather immature don't you agree?

pot meet kettle.

People might be nicer to you if you weren't a toxic bag of garbage all the time. Not me, but some people might

Great input to the discussion.

sure, lets look at what you said:

"Sure. If "winning" the war is 19% of Ukraines territory, they have smashed it out the park"

can you not see how stupid this statement is?

In what way is it stupid? Do you understand what I am referring to you?

Could you explain what you think I meant?