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Mar 13 2024 03:13am
Quote (Ashirgo @ Mar 13 2024 10:09am)
That's nothing new. Try that in Russia.


Yeah I don't know what is being discovered here. That you can lose your job in private sectors under capitalism if you don't follow the decorum or dominant ideology? Yeah both the left and right have been talking about that since the fucking 40s lol.
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Mar 13 2024 03:13am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2024 10:12am)
It's been known for a very long time that Russia is a very different beast compared to the West and I never denied that

Feel free to point out where I did


I'm not sure why you're surprised, though. Any society/culture will ostracise people who express a view that disagrees with the firm majority.
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Mar 13 2024 03:15am
Quote (Hobbiks @ Mar 13 2024 10:11am)
"No one talks about Ukrainian losses but Russian losses are highlighted to give you an outstanding example." - This is a lie, as it pertains to the western media, something I showed an example of instantly. Your first sentence was literally just a repetition of what has already been said.

"That people are cancelled in the West or called populists cannot be denied. Hell, if politicians (rightly) point out the problems associated with mass migration (as an example) they might be called fascists." - This is NOT the claim that you made. The claim that you made was, and i quote: "Also, in the West you get punished in a weird way if you don't follow the party line". This is absolutely not true and proven by the abundance of alternative media in the west, some being very extreme and very profitable.

Once again you deflect and start talking about populism or some youtuber you like who got cancelled, moving from your original position. You who just a few days ago were so invested in fallacies should really look up a motte and bailey and try to act accordingly, thanks.


That's not a lie

Russian losses are highlighted

Ukrainian civilian losses are highlighted

Ukrainian military losses are not talked about or marginalized. That you find an article that talks about Ukrainian losses does not change the bigger picture. Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that
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Mar 13 2024 03:15am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2024 09:12am)
It's been known for a very long time that Russia is a very different beast compared to the West and I never denied that

Feel free to point out where I did


Djunior this is normal. look at their join dates and post count. They are just being self righteous. dont stress over this. remember when the thread was created and people were going around paying ppl to post a view in this topic lol.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 13 2024 03:16am
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Mar 13 2024 03:15am
Quote (Ashirgo @ Mar 13 2024 10:13am)
I'm not sure why you're surprised, though. Any society/culture will ostracise people who express a view that disagrees with the firm majority.


So where did I deny it?
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Mar 13 2024 03:16am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2024 09:15am)
So where did I deny it?


I think your well capable of dealing with two people so i will leave you to it. have fun with them.
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Mar 13 2024 03:19am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2024 10:15am)
That's not a lie

Russian losses are highlighted

Ukrainian civilian losses are highlighted

Ukrainian military losses are not talked about or marginalized. That you find an article that talks about Ukrainian losses does not change the bigger picture. Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that


So you didnt read the article that i linked? Russian losses are not official and have not been official throughout the war. Ukrainian losses are official since a few weeks ago but are coming from a state source.

Multiple different outlets are publishing unofficial numbers. Al Jazeera has a daily update, AP reports bi weekly, Channel 4 just had a big fact check two weeks ago. I don't know what news you read but it's not the biggest news organizations on the planet, because they all report it (if its responsible to do so when most information is completely unconfirmed is another topic entirely).

"Ukrainian military losses are not talked about or marginalized" - This is simply not the case. You delude yourself into thinking this but I could send you hundreds of articles over multiple weeks and it still wouldn't be enough for you.
Tell me, out of curiosity: How many articles or research papers do you want before you accept that it is indeed not some big propaganda conspiracy?
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Mar 13 2024 03:20am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2024 10:15am)
So where did I deny it?


So why are you even mentioning your stuff in reply to whatever you replied to? Water is wet kind of reply from your side.
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Mar 13 2024 03:20am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 13 2024 10:15am)
So where did I deny it?


I mean the implication was that "the west does this and it is bad", if you want to agree that Russia does the exact same thing as the west and also puts critical voices in prison then by all means. Go ahead.
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Mar 13 2024 03:21am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 13 2024 10:16am)
I think your well capable of dealing with two people so i will leave you to it. have fun with them.


This sounds very patronising :lol:

Quote (ferdia @ Mar 13 2024 10:15am)
Djunior this is normal. look at their join dates and post count. They are just being self righteous. dont stress over this. remember when the thread was created and people were going around paying ppl to post a view in this topic lol.


Feeling superior because you joined a random forum a few years before everyone else? :lol: :bonk:
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