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Mar 12 2024 10:48am
Quote (Norlander @ Mar 12 2024 04:43pm)
Why mock like that? :)


i was trying to use small words and plain language that he could comprehend. it didnt work.
notice the nuanced difference between the Finland response and the Ukrainian response.



TLDR there are no fairytale endings im afraid.

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Mar 12 2024 11:42am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 12 2024 01:41pm)
So Russia can't control its border with Ukraine, two years into a war?


So a bunch of "Russian volunteers" take a random village somewhere and wait for the Russian army to show up to kick them out.

This is a PR stunt not an insurgency
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Mar 12 2024 12:15pm
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They are Ukrainian forces, duh. Massing a small force to make an incursion without damaging anything in the raid or capturing and holding anything, and getting a whole bunch of Ukrainians butchered or captured- has happened an alarming mumber of times now. Just last week with the landing party at the lighthouse. You can call it a PR stunt or breakthrough attempt, but I think it indicates a bit of desperation as they're losing the war of attrition and looking for some dramatic turnaround, but lack the massed forces to try a real battle of the bulge offensive.
Been several of these kinds of attacks and they all end up doing less damage to Russia than to the raiders. Just launching long range drones is obviously more effective
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Mar 12 2024 01:23pm
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They are Ukrainian forces, duh. Massing a small force to make an incursion without damaging anything in the raid or capturing and holding anything, and getting a whole bunch of Ukrainians butchered or captured- has happened an alarming mumber of times now. Just last week with the landing party at the lighthouse. You can call it a PR stunt or breakthrough attempt, but I think it indicates a bit of desperation as they're losing the war of attrition and looking for some dramatic turnaround, but lack the massed forces to try a real battle of the bulge offensive.
Been several of these kinds of attacks and they all end up doing less damage to Russia than to the raiders. Just launching long range drones is obviously more effective


This isn't a recent trend but has increasingly been evident during the last few months. Every time Ukraine suffers some notable set back on the battlefield, few days, week or two later there's some loud headline. When Avdiivka fell western MSM in unison spammed headlines about dozens Su-34s being downed or Russian KIA in that city higher than Afghan war. When Bakhmut fell it was headlines of 300+k dead Russians and shovel wielding plebs zerg rushing Ukrainian positions. Now Ukraine continues to slowly lose towns and front ground and you have these types of 'look Russia has insurgencies' diversions pop up again. It's pretty cyclical in nature and does feel desperate.

and as usual NAFO twitter salivating at tall tales of insurgent 'Russians' taking territory in Belgorod

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1767614087532351557

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Mar 12 2024 01:36pm
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This isn't a recent trend but has increasingly been evident during the last few months. Every time Ukraine suffers some notable set back on the battlefield, few days, week or two later there's some loud headline. When Avdiivka fell western MSM in unison spammed headlines about dozens Su-34s being downed or Russian KIA in that city higher that Afghan war. When Bakhmut fell it was headlines of 300+k dead Russians and shovel wielding plebs zerg rushing Ukrainian positions. Now Ukraine continues to slowly lose towns and front ground and you have these types of 'look Russia has insurgencies' diversions pop up again. It's pretty cyclical in nature and does feel desperate.

and as usual NAFO twitter salivating at tall tales of insurgent 'Russians' taking territory in Belgorod

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1767614087532351557


Its weird how these 'Russians' are based in Ukraine, using Ukrainian weapons and armor, under Ukrainians command and crossing the border from the Ukrainian side with a coordinated Ukrainian drone assault
Whats clear from the footage is that Tetkino / Belgorod / etc did not get raided and Ukraine lost a lot of armor in the assault, with all kinds of footage of it being abandoned and/or blown up.
On one hand, armor has become increasingly redundant on the battlefield, even abrams are just toasters now. But on the other hand, the retreat from avdeevka showed just how horrific a lack of armor can be when you need it.
If Ukrainians need to retreat under fire from another lost city and all their armor was wasted away on raids like this, they're going to be running across fields under artillery again
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Mar 12 2024 01:38pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 12 2024 07:23pm)
This isn't a recent trend but has increasingly been evident during the last few months. Every time Ukraine suffers some notable set back on the battlefield, few days, week or two later there's some loud headline. When Avdiivka fell western MSM in unison spammed headlines about dozens Su-34s being downed or Russian KIA in that city higher than Afghan war. When Bakhmut fell it was headlines of 300+k dead Russians and shovel wielding plebs zerg rushing Ukrainian positions. Now Ukraine continues to slowly lose towns and front ground and you have these types of 'look Russia has insurgencies' diversions pop up again. It's pretty cyclical in nature and does feel desperate.

and as usual NAFO twitter salivating at tall tales of insurgent 'Russians' taking territory in Belgorod

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1767614087532351557


alot of fog of war, or in this case, fog of main stream media. your post made me think a bit. ty for posting.
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Mar 12 2024 02:07pm
Definitely some footage of destroyed T64 tanks from the raid. They're driving right out of their AA cover and into areas Russia can use attack helicopters to respond, whats the point of throwing what dwindling supplies of T64s they have into such a suicide attack? They could have been riding motorbikes and had a better survival rate
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Mar 12 2024 02:13pm
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Definitely some footage of destroyed T64 tanks from the raid. They're driving right out of their AA cover and into areas Russia can use attack helicopters to respond, whats the point of throwing what dwindling supplies of T64s they have into such a suicide attack? They could have been riding motorbikes and had a better survival rate


Small tank&bmp fist followed by mass motorcycles dispersing would've been a headache and taken several days to clear out, but still same outcome
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Mar 12 2024 03:19pm
Pentagon spokesman Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder said Tuesday the package would include “Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, additional ammunition for HIMARS, 155 millimeter artillery rounds, including high explosive and dual purpose improved cluster munition rounds, 105 millimeter artillery rounds, AT4 anti-armor systems, additional rounds of small arms ammunition, demolitions, munitions for obstacle clearing, spare parts, maintenance and other ancillary equipment.”

The Pentagon has had approximately $4 billion in drawdown authority left to send to Ukraine - weapons and equipment pulled directly from Defense Department stocks. But the Pentagon was reluctant to use that funding, because there was no replenishment money left to refill the US inventories.

We weren’t broke at the time, but now we are.”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/12/politics/us-announces-weapons-package-ukraine/index.html
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Mar 12 2024 03:32pm
Clowns involving "NATO's fault" or "Russian PEACE" fucking debunked



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