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Mar 11 2024 11:07am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 11 Mar 2024 19:54)
Glad you feel better about the correct use of words to describe those war crimes.


Back to on-topic. Glad to see you realized that indiscriminate shelling of a town (Donetsk) with cassette munitions is a war crime :)
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Back to on-topic. Glad to see you realized that indiscriminate shelling of a town (Donetsk) with cassette munitions is a war crime :)


This was not a war, this was a special military de-russifcation :thumbsup:

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 11 2024 02:11pm)
This was not a war, this was a special military de-russifcation :thumbsup:


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This was not a war, this was a special military de-russifcation :thumbsup:


Then this is not a tank

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Mar 11 2024 11:22am
Quote (Norlander @ Mar 11 2024 05:14pm)
Then this is not a tank

https://files.catbox.moe/v5y16o.MP4


Tank is fine. Ground is communist

This is not a submarine

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Mar 11 2024 11:23am
Happy Ukrainian neo-nazi says hi

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Mar 11 2024 11:29am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 11 2024 04:52pm)
Why do you disagree with that assessment about nuclear weapons?

About the lack of conscription notion somehow proving Putin did want "all of Ukraine"
Russia literally attacked Kiev and were beaten back. I think Putin actually believed Zelensky would flee the country, regime change would occur and that Ukrainians would not put up the defence the did.
Putin has also subsequently mobilised hundreds of thousands of troops.
I also think he was wrongly led to believe that a majority of Ukrainians would welcome Russian troops, which in a way they were welcomed but with Molotov cocktails.

I would add though, that we are discussing the reason for why Putin invaded. Your kind of conflating this question with the current situation of what Bidens narrative is, of Russia posing further threats of invasion or having larger imperial ambitions.

"They should have taken the long view and not built up their army, not scared putin."
That sounds like someone with battered wife syndrome or the most gas lit excuse ever ^_^

" we dont live in an ideal world and smaller countries have to be careful around larger neighbors."
That is just, kind of a crazy black mirror statement. Its self defeating and contradictory. Ukraine should not seek to join NATO in case it pisses Vlad off but they should be very careful around their larger more powerful neighbour?
If offensive realism is a valid theory in this case, then Ukraine should expect aggression from its more powerful neighbour and immediately seek security guarantees.


Because Ukraine was no Putin's neighbor, it was his wife. He does not care if his neighbor sleeps around but he didnt want his wife sleeping around and stabbing him in his sleep. again this has all already been said.

why dont you give your opinion on why he invaded, i gave you my opinion already, but to reiterate: he saw Ukraine in Nato as a perceived threat.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 11 2024 11:31am
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Speaking about war crimes in Ukraine I recently came across the violence against women which does show parallels to WW 2 where women’s heads were shaved and they had to walk through the streets naked to publicly shame them.
Similarly, women have been taken captive, were beaten up and Russian soldiers took photos of female Ukranian soldiers and posted them online. Some of them have been used through official Russian propaganda channels to humiliate them and their families and break their resistance. They are denoted as „nazi-sluts“ and „nazi-bitches“ to justify their sexualised torture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

Mass rape and sexual assault have been used as a weapon of war in Ukraine, where victims were aged between 4 and 80 years.
Victims, including children, were sometimes forced to witness the crimes.

This might shine a light on why some families are fleeing from their liberators.
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Speaking about war crimes in Ukraine I recently came across the violence against women which does show parallels to WW 2 where women’s heads were shaved and they had to walk through the streets naked to publicly shame them.
Similarly, women have been taken captive, were beaten up and Russian soldiers took photos of female Ukranian soldiers and posted them online. Some of them have been used through official Russian propaganda channels to humiliate them and their families and break their resistance. They are denoted as „nazi-sluts“ and „nazi-bitches“ to justify their sexualised torture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

Mass rape and sexual assault have been used as a weapon of war in Ukraine, where victims were aged between 4 and 80 years.
Victims, including children, were sometimes forced to witness the crimes.

This might shine a light on why some families are fleeing from their liberators.


well done, it took you less then a day to invoke godwins law.
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