Quote (ferdia @ Mar 11 2024 01:49pm)
No Nato member is directly at war with Russia. However, Nato is officially supporting Ukraine in their conflict with Russia and is, for the most part, following the lead of the United States. It has made no attempt at a negotiated peace and is complicit. The United States is, to use a term, semi covertly, at war with Russia, using Ukrainian soldiers as their Proxy. It is coming to light the extent to which the United states is involved, and has been involved over the last 10 years (in Ukraine). Several Nato countries have made it clear that they will not send troops to Ukraine while several Nato countries have floated the idea of sending troops. It is clear that the US is providing Ukraine with as much information "intel" as possible related to Ukraine and Russia, to help Ukraine kill Russians. The US is arming Ukrainians, supplying intel, training, providing weapons and geo-political protection, a bit like what they are doing in Israel. Without US support Ukraine would be goosed. It is clear that the US is of the view to send long range weapons to Ukraine (in order to strike targets in Russia or Russian controlled places, say Crimea, Moscow). I believe the US still believes that Ukraine can achieve a victory - i.e. retaking crimea, but it is my belief that Russia would not countenance this. Therefore as with last year, no political decision, stuff still has to happen on the battlefield.
If Nato was a defensive alliance, it should not have sought to bring Ukraine into Nato, as they knew it would provoke a response from Russia. I am not talking about right or wrong I am talking about cause and effect.
Good.
Actually NATO is supporting Ukraine in its defence from Russian invasion, incase that was not apparent.
I know you agree with Mearsheimers offensive realism theory Nd that all blame for the Russian invasion lies with NATO expansion but the consensus among experts opposes this theory.
Anyone is welcome to agree with Mearsheimer, but expecting the majority to accept this as the prominent narrative is not accurate.
At bold, that is a false premise as you then neglect to acknowledge any countries choice to join an alliance; Essentially saying might makes right and national borders are in effect meaningless.
Equally if Russia had not supported seperatists in Ukraine and Moldova, essentially absorbed Belarus, supported the oppressive dictators of Syria, Iran and North Korea; And not to mention invading Chechnya twice, Georgia and eventually of course Ukraine.
Then the premise of countries seeking defence in numbers would be greatly, greatly diminished.
Also to clarify a previous point if the US does grow more isolationist, and it may well do so, then nuclear profileration will rapidly increase.
And a global war will be far more likely going forward.
This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 11 2024 08:11am