Quote (Norlander @ 9 Apr 2022 21:47)

France. Food stamps, inb4 cow dung gallets © Saucisson6000

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/frances-macron-mulls-food-stamps-help-poor-households-cope-with-ukraine-war-2022-03-22/

Quote (fender @ Apr 10 2022 01:07am)

how much of their gdp does nato spend on military compared with russia? one would think that after being owned that hard you'd carefully consider what ridiculous "argument" you'd want to pivot to, but you simply can't help yourself, huh?

yes, the relationship between countries is more complicated than those between neighbours, however, the main point is valid: it is NOT russia's right to determine ukraine's political course, it's exclusively the right of the ukrainian citizens. if they want to join nato, russia gets no say in it. you're american, right (everything else would be a huge shock considering the hilarious confidence you display your ignorance with)? what fundamental policy decisions should the mexican president be allowed to make for the US? imagine they got fed up with the decadent american life-style, your unhealthy, sugary shit food, and your shallow plastic-culture - do they have the right to invade their neighbouring states to achieve that? it's preposterous and you know it. the only reason you're arguing this is because you're brainwashed with cultural war propaganda and think that the murderous dictator pootin is on your "side" just because he's also a racist, islamophobic, homophobic piece of human garbage. your "logic" that it's up to the "stronger" country to determine what their neighbours do is EXACTLY why nato exists, you're making my argument for me there. if you're against war, you're in favour of nato "expansion". but no, you're trying to have your cake and eat it...

Quote (ferdia @ 10 Apr 2022 08:58)

lets try something crude:

yes, the relationship between countries is more complicated than those between neighbours, however, the main point is valid: it is NOT AMERICA's right to determine CUBA's political course, it's exclusively the right of CUBA. if they want to ALLEY WITH RUSSIA, AMERICA gets no say in it.

Saying Russia has no right to determine Ukraine political course has the same principal as America has no right to determine Cuba's political course.

/inbefore but Cuba is not a democracy.

Quote (fender @ Apr 10 2022 08:03am)

look at you, making a perfectly valid point without giving in to the urge to insult me. congratulations. you're 100% right, it is indeed NOT the US' right to determine cuba's political course. it is exclusively the cuban people's right. i could not agree more.

Quote (fender @ Apr 10 2022 02:07am)

how much of their gdp does nato spend on military compared with russia? one would think that after being owned that hard you'd carefully consider what ridiculous "argument" you'd want to pivot to, but you simply can't help yourself, huh?

yes, the relationship between countries is more complicated than those between neighbours, however, the main point is valid: it is NOT russia's right to determine ukraine's political course, it's exclusively the right of the ukrainian citizens. if they want to join nato, russia gets no say in it. you're american, right (everything else would be a huge shock considering the hilarious confidence you display your ignorance with)? what fundamental policy decisions should the mexican president be allowed to make for the US? imagine they got fed up with the decadent american life-style, your unhealthy, sugary shit food, and your shallow plastic-culture - do they have the right to invade their neighbouring states to achieve that? it's preposterous and you know it. the only reason you're arguing this is because you're brainwashed with cultural war propaganda and think that the murderous dictator pootin is on your "side" just because he's also a racist, islamophobic, homophobic piece of human garbage. your "logic" that it's up to the "stronger" country to determine what their neighbours do is EXACTLY why nato exists, you're making my argument for me there. if you're against war, you're in favour of nato "expansion". but no, you're trying to have your cake and eat it...

Quote (Djunior @ Apr 10 2022 08:18am)

Actually it's you who proves my point right there. No country is obliged to suck up and swallow your "progressive" woke propaganda. The Russians believing in their culture and heritage means more power to them. I haven't seen any race riots (peaceful protests lololol) or purple haired woke scum trying to take over every aspect of life in Russia so Russia is doing pretty well in that respect ;)

Quote (ferdia @ 10 Apr 2022 06:58)

lets try something crude:

yes, the relationship between countries is more complicated than those between neighbours, however, the main point is valid: it is not AMERICA's right to determine CUBA's political course, it's exclusively the right of CUBA. if they want to ALLEY WITH RUSSIA, AMERICA gets no say in it.

Saying Russia has no right to determine Ukraine political course has the same principal as America has no right to determine Cuba's political course. Yes, neither have the right to do so, but they still do it anyway as they are too close and pose a threat.

/inbefore but Cuba is not a democracy.

Quote (ferdia @ 10 Apr 2022 09:27)

I would actually side with fender on this point. people should be allowed to protest. they are not allowed to in russia, which to my mind is a problem. they are allowed to in the west, which has advanced various ideologies. I accept that some of those ideologies are questionable but that is seperate and distinct from being allowed to voice a view in community / protests.