Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 9 2024 06:06pm)
A recent poll commissioned by one of the two national German public broadcasters (think of a German equivalent to the BBC) found that Germans reject sending Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine by a 59-34 margin, so chancellor Scholz is actually acting in line with public opinion by denying the calls to supply Kyiv with them. Also shows that this is yet another issue on which public opinion and published opinion diverge.
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/politbarometer-taurus-ukraine-100.htmle:
Well, what this poll shows quite clearly is that there is no appetite for ramping up our involvement in this conflict beyond the current level.
Sure, but that is an assumption based on a poll. So while it has merit it has obvious limitations.
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 9 2024 06:33pm)
It doesn’t matter what the German, American, whatever other western country’s public wants, politicians lie and then move the goal posts.
I still remember when Biden explicitly said we won’t send f-16s and look where we are.
Situations change and politicians react accordingly. Its not really a complex idea.
Hitler annexed the Sudetenland and it was presumed that he was appeased. A year later they invaded Poland.
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 9 2024 06:56pm)
it was a Yes or No question, again, feel free to ask your own yes or no questions.
and the same for long range missiles.
im not sure on this, what i do know is that the US tripped their tanks of the most up to date armor before sending then to Ukraine, because they didnt want Russia to get the technology.
by "our" i presume you refer to German involvement? indeed scholz even went on air and said this in the last week.
Ok.
Not a yes or no question, but how do you see the war in Ukraine ending?
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 9 2024 06:58pm)
Not a very mature contribution, unsurprisingly. Yes defensive alliances add members. Like Finland, like Sweden.
Especially in the face of perceived or literal aggression.
If you want me to respond again to your posts which by continually quoting me I gather you do, then I suggest you upgrade the level of maturity in your rhetoric; If you are in fact capable of that.
This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 9 2024 01:13pm