Quote (Djunior @ Mar 8 2024 04:48pm)
@bold he never said committed by Ukraine. Stop being dishonest
This is old footage, battle for Donetsk airport. You can find this stuff too why do we need to spoon feed it to you
You can see the helicopters at work right at the beginning of the video and I don't think the rebels had helicopters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJ1nWT7QwYHe said „50,000+ dead between 2014-2022. cluster bombed by kyiv“ which means to me that Kyiv (aka Ukranian Gov) ordered to bomb 50k people with cluster ammunition. That’s the only claim that I would like to see evidence for, no dishonesty here.
Another contradictory point is that Ukraine did not own cluster ammunition before March 2022. Meaning that any attack with cluster ammunition must have been committed by Russia prior to that:
"In early March 2022, The New York Times reported the first use of a cluster munition by Ukrainian troops during the invasion near the farm Husarivka. It landed close to the Russian army’s headquarters. According to the report, nobody died in that strike.[13] An August 2022 Cluster Munition Coalition report noted that Ukraine has used cluster munitions in a limited capacity."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_cluster_munitions_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine Concerning your video the video description seems to be pretty on point and unbiased. When it comes to the war in Donbass I’m still missing the war crimes that few people blame Ukraine for or the genocide on the people of the Donbass which Russia accuses the Ukranians of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_DonbasThe war in Donbass, starting 2014, was an operation led by Russia to take control of Ukranian territory. This is made evident the fact that the group who operated in Donbass and tried to overthrow the local authorities, was lead by Russian Citizen Igor Girkin.
The so called pro-Russian separatists were in fact Russian combat veterans (“Russia only admitted sending "military specialists", later acknowledged the separatists as Russian combat veterans.“)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin "Igor Girkin was appointed to the position of Minister of Defense in the Donetsk People's Republic, a puppet state of Russia."
Let’s let that sink in for a minute. A Russian being a defense minister for an independent republic? Sounds fishy to me.
More evidence that Russia is behind the uproars in Donbass here:
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/conflict-ukraine „Armed conflict in the regions quickly broke out between Russian-backed forces and the Ukrainian military. Russia denied military involvement, but both Ukraine and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) reported the buildup of Russian troops and military equipment near Donetsk and Russian cross-border shelling immediately following Crimea’s annexation. „
This kind of illegal annexation of territory by Russia is nothing new. They have also invaded other countries, creating frozen conflicts and stationing troops there (including Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia)
This post was edited by Gala on Mar 8 2024 10:52am