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Mar 8 2024 06:01am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 8 2024 12:14pm)
Zelensky visited Odessa to decorate a bunch of special forces nazis and the place was pounded with Iskander missiles. Sounds messy


Why are Ukranians denoted as Nazis when Russia is committing a genocide in Ukraine?
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Mar 8 2024 06:03am
Quote (Gala @ Mar 8 2024 01:01pm)
Why are Ukranians denoted as Nazis when Russia is committing a genocide in Ukraine?


Banderites / far right ultra nationalists groups like Azov

You may want to check on this, you seem uninformed

All Western MSM reported on this btw before the war (and claimed it was a big problem)
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 8 2024 01:03pm)
Banderites / far right ultra nationalists groups like Azov

You may want to check on this, you seem uninformed

All Western MSM reported on this btw before the war (and claimed it was a big problem)


Stop dodging my question.
Do you acknowledge that Russia is comitting a genocide in Ukraine?

I don't deny that there is right wing militants within the Ukranian stratosphere.
I wonder though how many Russian woman, children and elderly have they slaughtered so far?
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Mar 8 2024 06:16am
Quote (Gala @ Mar 8 2024 01:12pm)
Stop dodging my question.
Do you acknowledge that Russia is comitting a genocide in Ukraine?

I don't deny that there is right wing militants within the Ukranian stratosphere.
I wonder though how many Russian woman, children and elderly have they slaughtered so far?


there is no genocide, thats total nonsense

i suggest you look at the definition

there is a war and there are russian war crimes
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Mar 8 2024 06:20am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 8 2024 01:16pm)
there is no genocide, thats total nonsense

i suggest you look at the definition

there is a war and there are russian war crimes


In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

Just one example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre#
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Mar 8 2024 06:27am
Quote (Gala @ Mar 8 2024 01:12pm)
Stop dodging my question.
Do you acknowledge that Russia is comitting a genocide in Ukraine?

I don't deny that there is right wing militants within the Ukranian stratosphere.
I wonder though how many Russian woman, children and elderly have they slaughtered so far?


THIS was your question

Quote (Gala @ Mar 8 2024 01:01pm)
Why are Ukranians denoted as Nazis when Russia is committing a genocide in Ukraine?


Stop moving goalposts by changing your question when you don't like the answer that you got ;)

I do not acknowledge genocide in Ukraine because 1) This was is clearly and 100% certain PROVOKED by the West and 2) had that not happened there wouldn't be war in the first place and no civilians killed. Although it's likely Ukraine would still have sent their far right neo-nazi brigades East to shell the ethnic Russians there (as they did).

Did a lot of civilians die? Obviously yes. Is that bad? Yes. The West should've realized that this is about geo-politics and a country like Russia (which isn't a gas station you can shut down with sanctions) doesn't like their historical opponents dictating what happens on their border.

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Mar 8 2024 06:45am
Quote (Gala @ Mar 8 2024 07:20am)
In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed withintent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were:killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, andforcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

Just one example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre#


Approximately 1/3 of all refugees that left Ukraine went to Russia. Millions. That’s not what a genocide looks like.
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Mar 8 2024 06:48am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 8 2024 01:27pm)

I do not acknowledge genocide in Ukraine because 1) This was is clearly and 100% certain PROVOKED by the West and 2) had that not happened there wouldn't be war in the first place and no civilians killed. Although it's likely Ukraine would still have sent their far right neo-nazi brigades East to shell the ethnic Russians there (as they did).


There is no evidence.
Link an independent media source or it's a lie.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 8 2024 01:45pm)
Approximately 1/3 of all refugees that left Ukraine went to Russia. Millions. That’s not what a genocide looks like.


I gave you the definition of the genocide and soon I will add the information to back it up.
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Mar 8 2024 06:51am
Quote (Gala @ Mar 8 2024 01:20pm)
In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed withintent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were:killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, andforcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

Just one example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre#


and?

russia is not trying destroy the people of ukraine, we are talking abour collateral damage and "regular" war crimes here

the number of civilian casualties is actually very low in comparison to the battlefield deaths

in almost all conflicts the civilian deaths are WAY above combat deaths, not here

btw, we dont even know who committed the bucha massacre, there are no neutral sources

however there is still the statement of that mayor or so on video from the alleged day of the massacre and everything was fine, then ukraine marched into the place

sorry, but you have fallen for the media hysteria
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 8 2024 12:45pm)
Approximately 1/3 of all refugees that left Ukraine went to Russia. Millions. That’s not what a genocide looks like.


it explains the rise in the total population of Russia anyway.
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