Surprisingly antisemitism in Armenia is 3 times higher than Russia. Probably they hate competition.

Like the time the Israeli's killed that medic, or the time they shot dead that journalist, or the time they put a 2 year old on a BBQ. Thankfully they didnt gas the tunnels - that would be a tricky one to defend, bad optic's apparently. I feel that if you can gloss over killing medic's its like going down a slide, pretty soon you can gloss over everything. Its really not hard instead to say: killing medic's, journalists, women and children is wrong, no matter who does it.

"Medics are protected by the Geneva Conventions. This means that anyone who purposefully attacks or kills a medic clearly wearing medical clothing and has no weapon in their hand commits a war crime."

Maybe its because of the American Service-Members' Protection Act which protects US servicemen who commit war crimes from being charged, that the attitude/belief is there is no such thing as a war crime. But most countries do accept that war crimes are an offense.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 7 2024 01:53am

It depends. A journalist is not an enemy combatant at all, if a journalist is armed they are not considered a journalist in wartime, you should know this. Im sure Israelis have killed a bunch of medics, some probably combat medics (who can be enemy combatants) and some probably civilian medics (who are not enemy combatants). Putting a 2 year old on a BBQ wouldn't be legal even if the baby was an enemy combatant.

How do you know the people carrying the strecher were all medics? Have you even seen the clip?

You are not arguing against me here, you are arguing about international humanitarian law as set up by Hauge and Geneve. If you don't think a medic with a gun, invading a foreign country is an enemy combatant then that's something you'll have to bring up with the UN, Red Cross, etc, cause I don't make those.

Your right, I made a mistake. I saw the word carrying and presumed you meant stretcher, but when I read it again I now see you mean a medi, carrying a weapon, while carrying a wounded soldier, which is not a designated medic.
my apologies.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 7 2024 01:56am

No worries man. I think killing of civilian medics is obviously atrocious, we can both agree on that.

I think we can also agree that Hague and Geneve conventions don't do a good enough job at protecting civilians and distinguishing for instance civilian medics from combat medics!

It would be helpful if the US recognized the concept of war crimes (committed by Americans) but that is not going to happen ever, and is a separate rabbit hole not worth going down.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 7 2024 02:16am

Medic, journalist, woman or a kid wielding a gun is a valid target

Wall Street Journal suggests that Ukraine should dig something



This post was edited by Norlander on Mar 7 2024 02:38am

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/04/europe/russian-drone-strike-killed-12-odesa-intl/index.html

What about the five children killed in Odessa?

Whataboutism



Don't put your artillery where the kids live, don't be a nazi

This post was edited by Norlander on Mar 7 2024 03:04am

to be fair his argument is sound. the expression whataboutism is not relevant in a debate, noting if one side is committing crimes, and the other is as well, then it is relevant. understand while proximity and i do not get on at all, i will support him if his argument is sound. equally i wont if its not or he if makes it personal.