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Mar 2 2024 04:35pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2024 05:24pm)
They've lost that amount of the last 2 weeks or so. Those numbers are significantly higher than "normal"

They have not lost this many fast jets in such a short period of time before.


I don’t keep track but for many months Ukrainian media/military boasts about X amount of planes being shot down, literally on a weekly basis. Sorry, numbers have to make sense at some point. The Russians don’t have a bottomless pit of these.
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I don’t keep track but for many months Ukrainian media/military boasts about X amount of planes being shot down, literally on a weekly basis. Sorry, numbers have to make sense at some point. The Russians don’t have a bottomless pit of these.


You don't keep track but you do?

Since that second A50 went down around a dozen fast jets have gone down. In 2 weeks.

It's an extraotdinary amount. Even the Ukrainians have never claimed this many jets downed in such a short time.

Edit: Russia have hundreds of jets. They are not running out. But trying to operate with 800 jets when you originally had 900 becomes problematic. More wear on airframes, less parts, less pilots to rotate.


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You don't keep track but you do?

Since that second A50 went down around a dozen fast jets have gone down. In 2 weeks.

It's an extraotdinary amount. Even the Ukrainians have never claimed this many jets downed in such a short time.

Edit: Russia have hundreds of jets. They are not running out. But trying to operate with 800 jets when you originally had 900 becomes problematic. More wear on airframes, less parts, less pilots to rotate.


No, I don’t keep track of every incredulous claim the Ukrainian military makes and catalogue it in some spreadsheet. I have seen them repeatedly claim Herculean numbers though, week after week, which if extended to a year, two years, results in some truly breathtaking numbers.

For example Zelensky recently said Ukraine’s armed forces lost 31k soldiers. His military and you and others like you months ago said that Russia lost over 300k people. You don’t see the breakdown in common sense in these two figures?
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No, I don’t keep track of every incredulous claim the Ukrainian military makes and catalogue it in some spreadsheet. I have seen them repeatedly claim Herculean numbers though, week after week, which if extended to a year, two years, results in some truly breathtaking numbers.

For example Zelensky recently said Ukraine’s armed forces lost 31k soldiers. His military and you and others like you months ago said that Russia lost over 300k people. You don’t see the breakdown in common sense in these two figures?


>most combat deaths are to artillery
>ukraine says russia has 10:1 artillery advantage
>ukraine says ukraine has 1:10 russian casualties
makes you think
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Some of these weekly loss stats if annualized or over the span of two years and you get some wonky numbers where you scratch your head and ask do people really believe this nonsense.

Read an article and it put Russias Su-34 at 140. So let me get this right, since February 17tth they’ve lost 10 of them? And Ukraine has these types of Herculean loss porn stats every few weeks. At some point you have to ask yourself, how do they continue to have an air force if they are losing 5-10% every month. Common sense is in short supply amongst people wishing things into reality.


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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 2 2024 11:39pm)
You don't keep track but you do?

Since that second A50 went down around a dozen fast jets have gone down. In 2 weeks.

It's an extraotdinary amount. Even the Ukrainians have never claimed this many jets downed in such a short time.

Edit: Russia have hundreds of jets. They are not running out. But trying to operate with 800 jets when you originally had 900 becomes problematic. More wear on airframes, less parts, less pilots to rotate.


Ukraine recently lost a bunch of air defense capabilities that were deployed very close to the front line. In 2 weeks. RIP air defenses.

Has Zelensky been spotted in Europe or the US to beg for more air defenses yet?
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 2 2024 10:52pm)
No, I don’t keep track of every incredulous claim the Ukrainian military makes and catalogue it in some spreadsheet. I have seen them repeatedly claim Herculean numbers though, week after week, which if extended to a year, two years, results in some truly breathtaking numbers.

For example Zelensky recently said Ukraine’s armed forces lost 31k soldiers. His military and you and others like you months ago said that Russia lost over 300k people. You don’t see the breakdown in common sense in these two figures?


Your conflating and denying something that not even the Russians are really denying.

About a dozen fast jets and an A-50 in February.
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Your conflating and denying something that not even the Russians are really denying.

About a dozen fast jets and an A-50 in February.


Share the source where the Russian military confirms these losses, because that’s what ‘not denying’ would look like.

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Share the source where the Russian military confirms these losses, because that’s what ‘not denying’ would look like.


That's false. Research yourself, there's videos of Su-34's bombing into fields posted by "Russian" residents on occupied territory.

Lets be generous and say half of those were fabricated by Ukraine, which they are not; So 6 jets and an A-50 in 2 weeks, whats going on?

Edit not 2 weeks, month of February

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The funniest war in the world would be sending NAFO morons into battle to test their military expertise
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